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Moises Caicedo to Chelsea! "Official"

Chuckled at “he is already on a big salary..”. Not sure the club’s current stance on wages will hold beyond next season for your Caicedo’s & Palmer’s. Of the top 10 players on the Ballon D’or list, 8 were earning at least 2x Palmer’s salary.
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Yeah at some point we will have to adopt a structure similar to Liverpool’s, where instead of all the players earning a wage near the median, only the top 10% of performers earn the current market wage for players at a similar level.

 
He was borderline a luxury player today in the sense he played at 80% and still made everything around him work and took over the midfield. Hes that good.

 
He was borderline a luxury player today in the sense he played at 80% and still made everything around him work and took over the midfield. Hes that good.
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Best DM in the world in my opinion.

 
Of course I'm bias, but for me he's the standout midfielder in world football right now. Crazy to think if you go back in this thread there are people saying how crap he is.

 
We might have taken 3 points off Brighton at the weekend but boy, we need a whole lot more to make up for the way they have mugged us with Caicedo. £115m for Mr Average. Lost count of the times he f**ked up tonight and he gives us very little. When others come back from suspension and injury he has to be benched.
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To get the best out of your players you need to have the right tactics. Caicedo doesn’t strike me as a player who suits possession based team but we’ve brought him.

I think he’ll become a vital player for us in time, I’m not too worried about it. He was poor tonight for sure.
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Surprised at how poor he is at winning the ball back. I suppose we were spolit with Kante, but Caicedo needs take some responsibility on the pitch, and tighten up his touch in possession.
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He's not fine. I know the price tag is not his fault but you spend anything upwards of £50M on a midfielder (never mind £115M), you expect a proper player and he looks anything but right now.

Not sure what his strength actually is. At times he looks clumsy and other times he was almost hiding. Really poor - far from fine.
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This is a very funny thread when you go backwards 😂

 
He is sensational. Bare in mind he is only 23, an age where a lot of players are still considered a prospect. What a top performance again. Sensational 👏

It is actually his birthday today and he turns 24. Happy Birthday Caicedo. Grateful to have him!

 
He is sensational. Bare in mind he is only 23, an age where a lot of players are still considered a prospect. What a top performance again. Sensational 👏

It is actually his birthday today and he turns 24. Happy Birthday Caicedo. Grateful to have him!
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Let's hope BlueCo don't have a "Logan's Run" style upper age limit on the squad LOL. Moises must be getting close !

Two moments I remember in the match yesterday very clearly - the magnificent assist in their 6 yard area for the goal, and a hooked clearance to avert danger in our 6 yard area with our defenders nowhere. Opposite ends of the pitch ... maximum impact !

 
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This is a very funny thread when you go backwards 😂
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Not really, he sucked and then got better, I don't think that's particularly controversial

It is why people are still so frustrated with Enzo Fernandez, he has the benefit of far more time and far more support yet still looks mediocre on a good day.

 
This is a very funny thread when you go backwards 😂
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He might be close to Kante levels now, but to be fair, he was pony in those first few months - almost Bakayoko like!!

 
Not really, he sucked and then got better, I don't think that's particularly controversial

It is why people are still so frustrated with Enzo Fernandez, he has the benefit of far more time and far more support yet still looks mediocre on a good day.
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Aye I wasn't suggesting anyone was controversial or wrong to state those opinions. But with the benefit of hindsight seeing him slagged off, complaints about how hard he worked, how Brighton must be laughing, is just quite funny now.

I wanted to trawl through because I have some non Chelsea mates who will confidently state he was rubbish in his first season with us. Which isn't true, around Jan the comments turned. He had a bad 3-4 months and then turned.

 
He might be close to Kante levels now, but to be fair, he was pony in those first few months - almost Bakayoko like!!
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I feel like that is a bit of a misconception, a lot of the negativity was mainly due to the Penalty he gave away against West Ham on debut and with the current "Meme" Culture the vultures just piled on for a lot of the early season.

He wasnt as consistent as he has been over the last couple of years but that is to be expected with a new young team and also partly due to Poch's suicidal football, to describe his early games Bakayoko like is just criminal in my opinion.

 
By his own admission the pressure of the fee and new club expectations impacted him. As did Poch’s system. He really started to find his feet in that system once Gallagher was next to him, and he’s gone up multiple levels since then.

Just an immense player. There are players we’ve had over the years that when their name is on the team sheet you have a sense of reassurance - modern era examples, Terry, Carvalho, A. Cole, Maka, Essien, Lamps, Drogs, Hazard, Costa, Ivanovic, Dave, Willian - list could go on. He’s in good company already at this early stage of his Chelsea career.

 
Some are saying he is already better than Kante, I don't agree personally. Kante's ability to break up an attack and get us moving forward again is unmatched. An injury free Kante had a cleaner tackle, carried the ball better and dribbled better. Caicedo has a better shot and can pass a bit better. Pressing and work rate is the same.

 
I feel like that is a bit of a misconception, a lot of the negativity was mainly due to the Penalty he gave away against West Ham on debut and with the current "Meme" Culture the vultures just piled on for a lot of the early season.

He wasnt as consistent as he has been over the last couple of years but that is to be expected with a new young team and also partly due to Poch's suicidal football, to describe his early games Bakayoko like is just criminal in my opinion.
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I was joking - although he was bad to start with.

 
Some are saying he is already better than Kante, I don't agree personally. Kante's ability to break up an attack and get us moving forward again is unmatched. An injury free Kante had a cleaner tackle, carried the ball better and dribbled better. Caicedo has a better shot and can pass a bit better. Pressing and work rate is the same.
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Personally I rate Caicedo higher. I was not as assured with Kante in possession as I was with Caicedo. I think Caicedo is stronger and more physically dominant. Kante was good in a possession based Chelsea but not great imo, while I think Caicedo is. I never worry when Caicedo has the ball, while Kante I was not as assured. Caicedo it feels impossible to take the ball off.

 
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Personally I rate Caicedo higher. I was not as assured with Kante in possession as I was with Caicedo. I think Caicedo is stronger and more physically dominant. Kante was good in a possession based Chelsea but not great imo, while I think Caicedo is. I never worry when Caicedo has the ball, while Kante I was not as assured. Caicedo it feels impossible to take the ball off.
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Caicedo is a great player and I think he still is improving, but wow. Kante was immense. He would win the ball back all over the pitch, rarely give away fouls unless he had to, started attacks and scored goals. He was instrumental to us winning the league under Conte (and for Leicester) and in winning us the CL.

Caicedo still has a long way to go in order to eclipse Ngolo. I think he has the ability to do it, but he's not there yet.

 
Cannot even get a rest vs the mighty qarabag following needing to come on as a late sub vs Wolves. we are hopeless without him. sooner or later he is going to get sick of carrying this team.

 
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