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dansubrosa said:
The team is going to look completely different, now Rudiger is off to sunny Madrid.

Are we going to end up being dragged back down to Man Utd, Arsenal level? I mean our defence will only have Silva, Chalobah, Sarr and Azpi as centre backs?

Jorginho very likely to go, Kante isn’t the same anymore, Kovacic injury prone.

We’re in for a big rebuild again arent we? How are you feeling about next season?
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Does anyone think amPadu has a future with us?

 
Sell Lukaku, Werner, Jorginho and Kepa for 150mil+. This would save alot of wages and help fund a rebuild.

Bring back Colwill, Gallagher and Broja. Buy a quality center back to replace Rudiger, new backup goalkeeper, wingbacks, central midfielder.

 
comtrend said:
Sell Lukaku, Werner, Jorginho and Kepa for 150mil+. This would save alot of wages and help fund a rebuild.

Bring back Colwill, Gallagher and Broja. Buy a quality center back to replace Rudiger, new backup goalkeeper, wingbacks, central midfielder.
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Don't get your maths here chief. 

No way we can sell Timo or Kepa for the wages they are on. No one who would want them can match those and I doubt they take a paycut. If they go I can see us getting between a combined 10-15mill loan fees plus us paying half or so of their wages.

Jorgi with a year left goes for around 15mill.

Lukaku is either signed for Conte IF PSG hire Conte, in which case I can see us getting around 70mill for him. 

If not it will be a loan, probably 10mill fee and us paying 75% of his wages.

Best case scenario Lukaku and Jorgi sold, 85mill in and 15mill in loans for Werner and Kepa.

 
There are bright spots, and change can be good. The unknown is the timing of new ownership and willingness to fund what will be a multi season rebuild. 
 

Toni is a big loss. As noted, got to address Kante, and the midfield overall. Can shift some players also - in no particular order, Jorginho, Timo, Ziyech, RLC, Barkley

Lets find some quality that wants to come. A CB, one or two wingbacks, and a midfielder.

Integrate Colwill, Broja and Gallagher. They all deserve a season. Colwill particularly under the eye of Silva (who we’ll be lucky to get so many games from). 

 
The new ownership will likely still be worked out past the end of the season. With that in mind I doubt we will see a ton of new players brought in this summer. There is already going to be a big task offloading the army of loanees with the new rules hitting next season. We know several players will be leaving by choice, especially in defense. While several returning loanees look good enough to boost our first team squad, and will hopefully be given that chance, there are not many obvious candidates in central defense. So any recruitment should prioritize this area. Beyond that it depends on who else leaves. For example if we decide to try and get a fee for Lukaku, Kante or Jorginho then hopefully we will bring in a replacement.

 
axman2526 said:
Don't get your maths here chief. 

No way we can sell Timo or Kepa for the wages they are on. No one who would want them can match those and I doubt they take a paycut. If they go I can see us getting between a combined 10-15mill loan fees plus us paying half or so of their wages.

Jorgi with a year left goes for around 15mill.

Lukaku is either signed for Conte IF PSG hire Conte, in which case I can see us getting around 70mill for him. 

If not it will be a loan, probably 10mill fee and us paying 75% of his wages.

Best case scenario Lukaku and Jorgi sold, 85mill in and 15mill in loans for Werner and Kepa.
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Lukaku looks more likely a loan back to an Italian club I'd say. Agree on Jorgi price. Won't be a big amount with a year left on his contract. Kepa has improved this season, but we will do well to get much of a fee for him. Then if he does leave we are lacking a decent second keeper. For that reason I could see him staying another year.

 
forbzy said:
The new ownership will likely still be worked out past the end of the season. With that in mind I doubt we will see a ton of new players brought in this summer. There is already going to be a big task offloading the army of loanees with the new rules hitting next season. We know several players will be leaving by choice, especially in defense. While several returning loanees look good enough to boost our first team squad, and will hopefully be given that chance, there are not many obvious candidates in central defense. So any recruitment should prioritize this area. Beyond that it depends on who else leaves. For example if we decide to try and get a fee for Lukaku, Kante or Jorginho then hopefully we will bring in a replacement.
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There is delay after delay for new owners. So incase temper my expectation for next season to make top 4. I dont expect any trophies.

TT may not get to make signings. Whether that is due to late takeover or the owners being cash strapped I am unsure of.

He, or whoever is the manager if he quits, may have to pick and chose from loan returns. Which may well be great and give Broja, Colwill and Gallagher play time.

Gilmour I see being sold if he does not sign a new deal as he has a year left. Hopefully we move on Baka and the like or we may be forced to use them lol...

forbzy said:
Lukaku looks more likely a loan back to an Italian club I'd say. Agree on Jorgi price. Won't be a big amount with a year left on his contract. Kepa has improved this season, but we will do well to get much of a fee for him. Then if he does leave we are lacking a decent second keeper. For that reason I could see him staying another year.
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Yeah the only hope is Conte goes to PSG and they back him as we know Conte loves Rom.

 
axman2526 said:
Yeah the only hope is Conte goes to PSG and they back him as we know Conte loves Rom.
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I would genuinely watch PSG every week if Rom goes there.

Seeing Neymar and Messi's reactions to playing with him would be TV gold. Unfortuently I think both have enough power to veto it.

 
Only two possibilities I see of us shipping Drogba, still at a big loss, are PSG and Newcastle 

 
loz said:
Only two possibilities I see of us shipping Drogba, still at a big loss, are PSG and Newcastle 
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You mean "We wish he was Drogba" or "he really thinks he is Drogba" or "We cannot believe we bought him thinking he is Drogba".

 
We really need to gut the squad and loanees. Bring the useful ones back and sell the rest. Get the ones not focused on growing with Chelsea out and recruit the ones who do. 

It's important that we don't let Mount, Kai, etc. mix around with players that don't want to be here or else we risk the squad adopting old habits 

 
We have a lot of needs to fill and the "quick sale" taking place is really going to make summer plans difficult. Hopefully it will work in our favor however, similarly to how it did in 2019.  Losing Rudiger will be really big and really hard to replace his personality within the squad. It's not like he is impossible to replace on the pitch, but off the pitch is much more difficult to recreate. AC leaving... I've become cold to it. Verbally agreeing to contract and then backing out bothers me quite a bit, I've got to honest. Of course, good luck to him, but he can go.

We need to revamp the middle of the pitch as well. Mount, Kante, RLC, Kova, Gallagher, Jorginho look like the most likely players in the midfield for next year. Of course there are rumors of Jorginho returning to Italy, but those stories have come out every year since he signed. I would love it it we were able to sell Jorginho and bring in either Tchouameni or Rice. I'd lean more towards Rice, but that has a lot to do with the fact that I've watched Rice a lot more than Tchouameni. It's clear that Kante has pretty much been ran into the ground at this point. He's still amazing but on the wrong side of 30 now and we need to be able to give him time off and not force him to play 50-60 matches a season.

If Lukaku leaves... man what a waste of a transfer he has been. I'm fine with moving on, especially if we are able to get a good portion of the transfer fee back. Sounds like Werner might be on his way back to Germany, but he makes so much money weekly, that it might cause difficulty in the transfer. Would be okay with our attackers being Havertz, Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, Broja ... probably need another winger in therel. Drawing a blank on any attackers out on loan minus Broja... 

TL;DR: would be okay with selling Jorginho, Barkley, Werner, and Lukaku. We have a few players out on loan that should be able to come back to Chelsea and be first team contributors. Those being: Broja, Colwill, and Gallagher. Maybe another 1 or 2 that I am forgetting. 

 
Wonderful logic that - Chelsea have fewer centre-backs, therefore Tuchel will pick a formation with fewer centre-backs next season. Utterly baseless speculation.

 
PloKoon13 said:
Wonderful logic that - Chelsea have fewer centre-backs, therefore Tuchel will pick a formation with fewer centre-backs next season. Utterly baseless speculation.
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Indeed but I hope it is accurate, especially if TT does not believe Reece can play as RWB anymore without risk of regular breakdowns.

 
I feel like this team is lacking leaders. 

Not long ago we had cech, terry, carvalho, Cole, Ballack, Essien, Drogba etc etc proper leaders.

Looking around the current team only Rudiger that is about to leave next year and Jorginho show any kind of leadership. I like chillwell too, has potential. 

 
Gentian said:
I feel like this team is lacking leaders. 

Not long ago we had cech, terry, carvalho, Cole, Ballack, Essien, Drogba etc etc proper leaders.

Looking around the current team only Rudiger that is about to leave next year and Jorginho show any kind of leadership. I like chillwell too, has potential. 
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The only "real" leader we have is Silva. 

 
If Kounde's our main transfer target I'm not sure he suits a back four 

 
chiefBlueCFC said:
It's clear that Kante has pretty much been ran into the ground at this point. He's still amazing but on the wrong side of 30 now and we need to be able to give him time off and not force him to play 50-60 matches a season.
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But this is not the case ... in the last three seasons, Kante has started 26 games (out of 55), 34 games (out of 57) and 29 games (out of 61) respectively ... he's being managed as it is, and we are still seeing a decline in performances ... I would sell.

 
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