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axman2526 said:
You forgetting the Turkish billionaire? Lol 😉

Could well be. Seem to be front runners. 

I can see why we are being chased by several US investors. If you think about it Roman is selling us Debt free. 

So don't bother investing in the stadium.

Sell off what you can  of the squad.

Utilize the youth team and free transfers. 

Bring wages down.

Keep the side 4th or 3rd to bring in CL money. Could quickly become profitable.
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Read that that guy is just using the situation to promote his crypto company. I guess we'll see if he's really serious about buying us. 

 
Sexyfootball said:
All the assessments are subjective, and they are my opinion. Everyone will have their own opinion, but it's a pretty tragic list all things considered ! A huge amount of wasted money ... if a new owner comes in with a more frugal attitude to transfers, and we miss out on all these big money failures, then it is not necessarily the poisoned chalice it might appear ?
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Yes but I think only partially due to our situation because we have no choice but to find some good players that won't be a failure. I agree that it's great to miss out of any future Lukaku but the squad will need new players and not all can come from the academy, it's great if we can upgrade 2 youngsters from time to time but for example even if our squad is worth a lot right now, whatever is the value it will go down because we'll lose a significant number of players by default. The bare minimum is to find replacements for at least some of them just like we refreshed the squad once Willian and Pedro left.

The new owner won't have the option to be shy and to start slow, he/she/they will have to show some level of commitment to the club as soon as the summer transfer window because we're losing Dave, Rudiger and Christensen.

To rebuild our backline properly, well it could cost us like Lukaku did or more I mean Tuchel did want Hakimi and he did want Haaland/Lukaku so if he has any say in the summer it won't be just some budget signings all around. On top of that maybe the option to sell Jorginho and Kante will be very tempting to the new owner since their contracts will expire next year so the new owner could try to convince the fans that selling some key players and going with Gilmour and Gallagher in the midfield will be just fine.

 
Deino said:
In the past 20 years, only 3 times did a high profile transfer (above 65million) worked out and that was Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale and Van Dijk. Everyone else fell short. 
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Exactly !

And if we have an owner who is not as forthcoming as Roman with the cash, and hence we are not able to drink the water from the poisoned well of high profile transfers, then that might actually be a good thing LOL.

 
coco said:
When i look at the silver cupboard it's easier to argue your point, but i admit we may have won more with better transfers.
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We might just as easily have won all that silver without running up a £1.5 billion debt to our owner ?

£80M a year loss or thereabouts ... and in the most part connected to high profile purchases, and their associated wage costs.

 
Term_X said:
Property investor Nick Candy reportedly putting in a bid and he’s a Chelsea fan too with strong links in west london and wants to expand the bridge. Only issue being he’s only worth 850 ‘million’ alone, so will need a consortium of most likely Americans. 
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This is the one that interests me.

Its the knowledge this chap and his brother have in terms of the  property market.

I know all about the issues around land ownership , the freehold etc but I will throw into the pot the problems that now exist around thenEarls Court development and the power held by the pitch owners 

So let’s just suppose that in exchange for a land swap and say 25-30% of the cost of building  and moving to a 60k new stadium on the sites of the now demolished exhibition buildings at Earl’s Court how would people feel ? 
 

For me it actually would fit like a glove because once in a stadium my focus would be 100% on matters on the pitch
 

 
I hope our aim to win trophies is instilled so hard into the club agenda that even a new owner won't look to change that. Even though you can argue with that path I think that is something that separates us from most big clubs. If Arsenal wanted to win trophies they'd done something about it. 

In America professional teams are not chasing the biggest prize with this ferocity if the stadium is full and money rolls in. A trophy for them is just an icing on the cake. For Roman trophies are everything.

 
Difficult situation. We need the right owners and we need them in quick.

Because this was shaping up to be a pivotal summer before Roman decided to sell the club. Now I don't think you can overstate how important the summer will be with it looking likely that we'll lose 75% of our Champions League winning defense for nothing at all. And Jorginhos, Kantes and Silvas contracts are out in a year so there are some major decisions to be taken there as well. Everything is completely up in the air right now and there are reports that our director, techincal director and chairman will leave the club alongside Roman. So in that case we need a new structure in no time as well.

 
Sindre said:
Difficult situation. We need the right owners and we need them in quick.

Because this was shaping up to be a pivotal summer before Roman decided to sell the club. Now I don't think you can overstate how important the summer will be with it looking likely that we'll lose 75% of our Champions League winning defense for nothing at all. And Jorginhos, Kantes and Silvas contracts are out in a year so there are some major decisions to be taken there as well. Everything is completely up in the air right now and there are reports that our director, techincal director and chairman will leave the club alongside Roman. So in that case we need a new structure in no time as well.
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Maybe that's a good thing. There can be no assumption under these circumstances that we just need to manage the status quo. There is no doubt that a new owner and management need to immediately show their worth and ambition. If we're lucky this could be a boost for our summer. 

 
axman2526 said:
You forgetting the Turkish billionaire? Lol 😉

Could well be. Seem to be front runners. 

I can see why we are being chased by several US investors. If you think about it Roman is selling us Debt free. 

So don't bother investing in the stadium.

Sell off what you can  of the squad.

Utilize the youth team and free transfers. 

Bring wages down.

Keep the side 4th or 3rd to bring in CL money. Could quickly become profitable.
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Again completely wrong way to look at it. You should think of Chelsea as like a very expensive house you rent out. You don’t care if the rent doesn’t cover the costs because you make all your money on the house price going up. 

I’ll say it again, despite the losses Abramovitch has likely made a profit through owning chelsea. It’s value today is about20-30x what he paid for it. . The annual losses of Chelsea probably just help with taxes. 

 
I like the idea of say Candy as a CFC fan being a part owner yet has been mentioned it would be as part of a consortium bid. I see an issue with the suggested US part of the consortium as they will want ROI.

Might work if CFC snap up aspiring US players so they can promote this back home and build up the US market. 

With this also likely to be pre-season matches in the US, not the worst place to go by any means. 

 
Luiz4Chelsea said:
Maybe that's a good thing. There can be no assumption under these circumstances that we just need to manage the status quo. There is no doubt that a new owner and management need to immediately show their worth and ambition. If we're lucky this could be a boost for our summer. 
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Yeah, who knows.

I very strongly suspect the new owners will focus on securing sustainability first though and then see what we can afford to do after that. Which is sensible I suppose from a business perspective but would probably see City & Liverpool pull even further ahead of us.

I will try to be optimistic but I don't have a good feeling about the summer. We are losing at least a couple top class starters, probably three or four when everything is said and done. Replacing them would be a massive task in any summer, nevermind this summer with everything up in the air at this club.

 
By the way it’s Americans that own Liverpool isn’t it?

what we need is an owner that likes football and understands what it takes to run a successful franchise. Succes on the field leads to a bigger value of the club. 

 
Which is why I would prefer the Turkish guy, not sure if he is still in the running.

 
terraloon said:
This is the one that interests me.

Its the knowledge this chap and his brother have in terms of the  property market.

I know all about the issues around land ownership , the freehold etc but I will throw into the pot the problems that now exist around thenEarls Court development and the power held by the pitch owners 

So let’s just suppose that in exchange for a land swap and say 25-30% of the cost of building  and moving to a 60k new stadium on the sites of the now demolished exhibition buildings at Earl’s Court how would people feel ? 
 

For me it actually would fit like a glove because once in a stadium my focus would be 100% on matters on the pitch
 
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Have to compare the costs and see. May offer the ability to build  bigger stadium than 60k.

We love the bridge, realistically we have to consider all options as it will sadly hold us back if we want to compete at the top imo.

 
axman2526 said:
Have to compare the costs and see. May offer the ability to build  bigger stadium than 60k.

We love the bridge, realistically we have to consider all options as it will sadly hold us back if we want to compete at the top imo.
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It’s the last sentence that is relevant and to be honest how I feel. 

 
I imagine if Nick Candy is looking to buy the club he will probably have to take a similar route as to what Amanda Staveley did at Newcastle because his networth alone doesn't even meet half of Roman's asking price.

 
Stretford Ender said:
From today's Guardian. If this story has any legs, fight it to the last. Don't let another dodgy Yank owner into the league.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/09/woody-johnson-chelsea-bid-rumours-new-york-jets-owner
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Most of us trust in Roman to take care of the club. However if the UK government take us over they won't give a sh*t and we will go to the highest bidder.

Frankie8Lampard said:
I imagine if Nick Candy is looking to buy the club he will probably have to take a similar route as to what Amanda Staveley did at Newcastle because his networth alone doesn't even meet half of Roman's asking price.
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If he presents a realistic package to develop the bridge and keep us moving forward I believe Roman drops the price and takes a much smaller fee, since he is not keeping it anyways and even if it drops to 400mill that is a lot to go to the war victims.

 
Matt Law in the Telegraph on Chelsea's not exactly meritocratic wage bill:

With the first deadline for bids to buy Chelsea fast approaching, those weighing up an offer or waiting to find out if a bid is accepted may be confused to find that head coach Thomas Tuchel’s preferred team for Thursday night’s trip to Norwich City is unlikely to match up with the club's list of salaries.

To put it bluntly, the wage bill reads back to front. Among the highest earners are Romelu Lukaku, Timo Werner, on-loan Saúl Ñíguez, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Kepa Arrizabalaga – all of whom cannot be guaranteed to start against bottom-of-the-table Norwich.

Contrast that to the bottom of the list, where three of Chelsea’s best and most reliable players, Edouard Mendy, Reece James and Mason Mount, sit.

It is a situation that will need addressing relatively quickly and will shock any individual or group who get as far as being able to delve into the Chelsea books as part of the takeover process.

The Swiss Ramble Twitter account this week highlighted just how much Roman Abramovich has propped Chelsea up over his 19 years in charge and the club’s new reality will probably be that, no matter how good the next owners might prove to be, things will have to change.

Whether or not the £333 million the club pays out in salaries, according to accounts up to June last year, is sustainable remains to be seen, but the wage bill will at least need to be re-balanced to better reward performance and productivity rather than reputation and transfer fee.

If he does not start against Norwich, then Thursday night will mark 89 days since Werner last started a Premier League game for Chelsea and it seems clear that, whoever owns the club, the German will be made available in the summer.

But, just as they find an upside down wage bill, any prospective owner who looks at the books will see how difficult it will be to sell Werner without accepting a big financial loss.

Werner was signed for £47.5m two years ago and, despite initial projections being more conservative, Telegraph Sport understands his five-year contract is worth around £14m-a-year. In terms of the club’s profit and loss, player’s transfer fees are spread across the length of their contracts, so, including his wages, Werner has cost Chelsea about £47m so far.

No wonder there were reports out of Germany this week that Borussia Dortmund would not be able to pay Werner’s wages and, on book value alone, Chelsea would need to demand a transfer fee of at least £28.5m to cover the remaining three years on what he is worth to the club.

But not accepting a financial hit to sell the 26-year-old could also be costly for Chelsea, as Werner would set the European champions back a further £70.5m on the books were he to stay at the club for the remainder of his contract.

Werner has started only three games for Chelsea this year, the dead-rubber Carabao Cup second leg against Tottenham Hotspur and FA Cup ties against Chesterfield and Luton Town.

It is a similarly alarming situation regarding Kepa, who is likely to ask to leave Chelsea this summer after performing well during his limited opportunities since Tuchel’s arrival.

His eye-watering £71.6m transfer fee was spread over seven years, which means that, including wages thought to be roughly £10m-a-year, Kepa has already cost Chelsea £72.8m, with the club needing at least £30.6m to redeem his book value over the remaining three years of his deal.

Kepa is comfortably the most expensive second-choice goalkeeper in history, while Mendy, named as the world’s best goalkeeper in the 2021 Fifa Best awards, has proved to be a bargain.

Signed for £20m on a five-year contract, Mendy’s transfer fee is a yearly cost on the books of just £4m and it is estimated that the Senegal international, who is now a European, world and African champion, earns around £3m-a-year.

With players like Werner and Kepa costing Chelsea so much, it perhaps becomes more understandable why Antonio Rüdiger, who is very much mid-table in terms of the club’s earners, has been holding out for a significant pay rise to sign a new deal. It could have also contributed to the fact Andreas Christensen is close to agreeing a free transfer switch to Barcelona at the end of the season.

And there may be more difficult negotiations down the line with the list of players who could be described as being underpaid, at least in a Premier League footballer sense, just as eye-catching as those who some might believe have not been justifying their salaries.

The value of James to Chelsea has been underlined over the past week after the right-back started his first game since his two-month lay-off and inspired the club to victory over Burnley, scoring the opening goal just after half-time. The injury set-back Tuchel revealed he has suffered ahead of the Norwich game will be keenly felt.

His contract, which James signed in 2020, still has three years to run and Chelsea have the option to extend it by a further 12 months. So in that respect Chelsea and their next owners have nothing to worry about.

But the 22-year-old is now undisputedly one of Chelsea’s most important players which should be recognised in his salary and will also be well aware that his current pay packet falls well below what most of his England team-mates are earning.

The same can be said of another of the club’s academy products Mount, who will have two years remaining on his contract in the summer and consistently impacts games like no other Chelsea player. Even his critics cannot argue against 15 goal contributions this season.

Mendy, too, deserves a hefty pay rise while there is also the issue over what the next owners do about midfielders N’Golo Kanté and Jorginho, whose contracts will have only one year to run at the end of this season.

Abramovich kept Chelsea at the top, but it will be a major challenge for the next owners to do so if the wage bill remains back to front.
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