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To me some of the prices are basically just beginning prices, there's no chance that we walk away from £40m for Delap or £18m for Guiu or £85m for Neto.

Some of the average players that have gone for big money this summer dictates what we're looking for. Gordon to Barca £70m, Yan Diamande to Madrid £110m, Van Hecke to Spurs £52m, Matheus Fernandes to Spurs £80m. Is Elliott Anderson better than Enzo? No, so anything lower than what City paid for him is just us getting ripped off.
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With the time remaining in the window I am not confident that these frauds will be able to complete any permanent sales. That's not taking into account trying to get replacements in.

 
To me some of the prices are basically just beginning prices, there's no chance that we walk away from £40m for Delap or £18m for Guiu or £85m for Neto.

Some of the average players that have gone for big money this summer dictates what we're looking for. Gordon to Barca £70m, Yan Diamande to Madrid £110m, Van Hecke to Spurs £52m, Matheus Fernandes to Spurs £80m. Is Elliott Anderson better than Enzo? No, so anything lower than what City paid for him is just us getting ripped off.
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The key difference being that we are desperate to sell, whereas those players were bought by clubs who were desperate to buy and had deep pockets. Forest didn't need to sell Anderson and had stiff competition from 3-4 other capable clubs, so they could demand what they wanted. Diomande was clearly a PR signing by Perez following re-election. Spurs were desperate full stop, and obviously got fleeced.

No one is desperate to buy Delap, Fernandez, Gusto, Neto et al. Jackson appears to be the only saleable piece.

Then you look at selling clubs. Relative to your examples, Morgan Rogers for £117m looks like a bargain, let alone Villa losing Tielemans and Konsa for less than £90m.

 
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But we don't sell anyone. We set ridiculous prices and make them public. Why would anybody think this kid is worth £25m when he cost us £6m and can't get a game anywhere. I'd be amazed if he gets sold, let alone at that price.
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Why do say we don't sell anyone, we have the most transfer income by far in the past 4 years, since the 22/23 season weve made over £900m.

 
Why do say we don't sell anyone, we have the most transfer income by far in the past 4 years, since the 22/23 season weve made over £900m.
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I guess it's because we buy so many players that there's also a lot that either hang around contributing very little or get continually loaned out.

 
I guess it's because we buy so many players that there's also a lot that either hang around contributing very little or get continually loaned out.
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That's a natural consequence of buying sh*t players, nobody wants to buy them when it's time to sell. So it's more of a buying problem then a selling problem, as I see it. We seem to do OK at selling decent players like Cucu, Santos, Trev, etc. Getting €21.00m for George was pretty good going.

 
The Academy has saved these guys skin over and over.

They are easy to sell though because it’s pure profit, no book value to try and protect and they haven’t had their salaries quadrupled and a 7yr contract.

And in most cases they just want to go somewhere and play.

George and Chalabah providing most or our profit so far again this window.

 
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To me some of the prices are basically just beginning prices, there's no chance that we walk away from £40m for Delap or £18m for Guiu or £85m for Neto.

Some of the average players that have gone for big money this summer dictates what we're looking for. Gordon to Barca £70m, Yan Diamande to Madrid £110m, Van Hecke to Spurs £52m, Matheus Fernandes to Spurs £80m. Is Elliott Anderson better than Enzo? No, so anything lower than what City paid for him is just us getting ripped off.
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If Enzo was better than Anderson, Enzo would have been signed first by city this season. The "stats" dont really lie either. https://one-versus-one.com/en/compare-players/Enzo-Fernandez-vs-Elliot-Anderson#

Anderson is head and shoulders above Enzo on pretty much every stat. There is some blind spot in our fanbase as to what enzo brings to the side, most of it is imaginary from his fan boys. At Chelsea, Caicedo has to carry Fernandez, in the Argentinian side, Macallister carries Enzo. Enzo knew this elbowing Anderson in the back of the head in the semi final, as did argentina who targeted throughout the first 45 mins. Corrupt officiating put pay to Englands chances.

90 million for a player who hasnt adjusted to the the league after 3 years, he reminds me of veron, great player in the wrong league. Very few clubs will spend 80 million on Enzo. We are stuck with the creature.

 
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Why do say we don't sell anyone, we have the most transfer income by far in the past 4 years, since the 22/23 season weve made over £900m.
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But with the exception of Cucurella and Santos, there have been no other sales from this so called fire sale that they were having. All it appears to be is loan deals.

I don't get why we court suitors and openly state the crazy price tags that rarely if ever materialise. Its a strange element of grandstanding that seems counter productive to me. I don't see City doing this. They have their players that are on the shelf and are quietly conducting their negotiations until the sale is agreed. For example, i know that they are looking to shift Nico Gonzalez, and i think maybe Newcastle are interested. But i haven't seen loads of pressers or briefing setting out what City value him at as it will be kept low key until announced. I find our approach both counter productive and also somewhat embarrassing tbh.

 
I don't understand the logic of some people on here, you seem to be annoyed that we try and get the best possible value for our players? Like that guy who wants us to accept £80m for Enzo just because he doesn't like him.
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This would be a valid post if we actually sold people for maximum value. Instead we overvalue them and get stuck with a 40 man squad, mountains of debt and a bomb squad as big as our main squad.

 
Final week of the window and where are we with outgoings?

Pedro Neto - Al Hilal now looking at Martinelli as we’ve priced him out of a move, our only hope lies with our annual Arsenal charity buy stepping up.

Enzo Fernandez - Aside from the same regurgitation by the Twatterati for ‘clicks’ there’s absolutely zero movement.

Malo Gusto - Deathly quiet. 0 bids.

Nicolas Jackson - Atletico on loan or this supposed super shadey pre-agreed FFP/PSR/KYS deal with Villa

Marc Guiu - 3 European clubs ‘circling’. 0 bids.

Liam Delap - 3 Premier League clubs ‘circling’. 0 bids.

Jamie Gittens - Fenerbahce releasing statements in disgust at even being linked. 0 bids.

Misha - 2 PL loans on the table, trying to force him to Strasbourg for the season.

Our incomings this year seem more in line with what we’d expect for a club of this stature. Our outgoings are once again laughable. How Winstanley & Stewart continue to remain employed is an absolute mystery.

 
If Enzo was better than Anderson, Enzo would have been signed first by city this season. The "stats" dont really lie either. https://one-versus-one.com/en/compare-players/Enzo-Fernandez-vs-Elliot-Anderson#

Anderson is head and shoulders above Enzo on pretty much every stat. There is some blind spot in our fanbase as to what enzo brings to the side, most of it is imaginary from his fan boys. At Chelsea, Caicedo has to carry Fernandez, in the Argentinian side, Macallister carries Enzo. Enzo knew this elbowing Anderson in the back of the head in the semi final, as did argentina who targeted throughout the first 45 mins. Corrupt officiating put pay to Englands chances.

90 million for a player who hasnt adjusted to the the league after 3 years, he reminds me of veron, great player in the wrong league. Very few clubs will spend 80 million on Enzo. We are stuck with the creature.
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Well luckily I watch football on a screen and not just on a spreadsheet. No amount of tactico data is going to convince me that Anderson is a better footballer than Enzo Fernandez. And as for 'city would have signed Enzo first' which deal was the easiest to make? Nottingham Forest's star midfielder or Chelsea's star midfielder?

 
This would be a valid post if we actually sold people for maximum value. Instead we overvalue them and get stuck with a 40 man squad, mountains of debt and a bomb squad as big as our main squad.
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I'd argue that last season we did a great job of selling players for max value. Off the top of my head Madueke, Broja, Ugochukwu and Nkunku were sold at very good prices, especially when you consider what their value is now just a season later.

 
Well luckily I watch football on a screen and not just on a spreadsheet. No amount of tactico data is going to convince me that Anderson is a better footballer than Enzo Fernandez. And as for 'city would have signed Enzo first' which deal was the easiest to make? Nottingham Forest's star midfielder or Chelsea's star midfielder?
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There's no way you watch football on a screen and came to the conclusion Enzo is good lol take up another sport bud

I'd argue that last season we did a great job of selling players for max value. Off the top of my head Madueke, Broja, Ugochukwu and Nkunku were sold at very good prices, especially when you consider what their value is now just a season later.
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Madueke was good value, as was Broja.

Ugochukwu was probably fair market value and Nkunku was a heavy loss.

There was then the other players still sat at the club that we're still lumbered with today. Badiashile, Disasi, Jackson, Guiu, D.Fofana, Washington, Wiley, Slonina, Neto. The list is endless.

 
This is why people think you're a bellend, until you learn how to converse like an adult I won't bother.
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Of all the things, Enzo Fernandez is the one that breaks you. It’s been fun, hope he sees your defence of him one day

 
Well luckily I watch football on a screen and not just on a spreadsheet. No amount of tactico data is going to convince me that Anderson is a better footballer than Enzo Fernandez. And as for 'city would have signed Enzo first' which deal was the easiest to make? Nottingham Forest's star midfielder or Chelsea's star midfielder?
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yeah, sort of fanboy response I expected. Sorry, I wish we had Anderson in our midfield and not enzo. We would be a much better side.

While you're here, and I ask this of Enzo fanboys, list ten games where Enzo has been MOM and looked like a 120 million pound player in our shirt. With some luck not our problem to worry about after this week.

And hes a trashy scummy human and I cant stand him, but not up for fans booing him, yes despicable pos but hes our pos.

 
It’s sad that there doesn’t appear to be any rumours of us signing a keeper.
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I'd even take Emi Martinez for a couple of years at this rate.

I still think we are a CM and a CB light at the moment. A wide winger if Neto leaves too.

 
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