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Riyad Mahrez

xXRuufioXx said:
Ok, lets take your title winning season as an example. At the beginning of that season not one team that played Leicester played against them as if they were playing against title contenders. It wasn't until the game against City in which you won 3-1 that teams actually stood up and took notice. After that most teams played not to lose, rather than trying to win, which meant that they sat back and packed out their defense to try and nullify your attack. Up until and including that game against City, Mahrez scored 14 goals and had 10 assists. Then came Arsenal which you lost, and from then on for the final 13 games where teams sat back to nullify your attack like they do now to Chelsea, guess how many goals Mahrez scored..........3. Guess how many assists he had.......1. 

So yes. He was one of one of you best players that season. Until he had to try and break down a packed defense.
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nice analysis but i would like to add one thing , we are in need of a real goal scorer , we already have hazard and morata and with mehrez we can get that real good support , opposition need to take care of two good players , Pedro and willian both are 3o or nearing the same , you have to accept there is a real threat of hazard leaving for RM (atleast what all the papers and pundits are saying) , so mehrez can be really a good signing for us and trust me he is good not a bad player at all 

 
Alakshendra said:
nice analysis but i would like to add one thing , we are in need of a real goal scorer , we already have hazard and morata and with mehrez we can get that real good support , opposition need to take care of two good players , Pedro and willian both are 3o or nearing the same , you have to accept there is a real threat of hazard leaving for RM (atleast what all the papers and pundits are saying) , so mehrez can be really a good signing for us and trust me he is good not a bad player at all 
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I understand what you're saying, but I still don't see him as an upgrade on what we already have. He could be a replacement for Willian or Pedro, but I don't believe he will add anymore than what they already do. 

However, like I've said before, this is just my opinion. If he comes here and plays a blinder for us I'll be ecstatic, just like everyone else here will. I just have my doubts. 

 
xXRuufioXx said:
I understand what you're saying, but I still don't see him as an upgrade on what we already have. He could be a replacement for Willian or Pedro, but I don't believe he will add anymore than what they already do. 

However, like I've said before, this is just my opinion. If he comes here and plays a blinder for us I'll be ecstatic, just like everyone else here will. I just have my doubts. 
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true but i think he is a good alternative , our team is better than foxes and with Mehrez at a wing we can do better in attack , i think that Alonso and moses both are somehow weak in defence so we should focus on those areas as well 

 
Alakshendra said:
true but i think he is a good alternative , our team is better than foxes and with Mehrez at a wing we can do better in attack , i think that Alonso and moses both are somehow weak in defence so we should focus on those areas as well 
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I hate to come over like a broken record at the moment but I don't think people understand where I'm coming from in regards to Mahrez. I'll try and be clearer this time, maybe I haven't been before. I will agree that our defense if better than Leicester. Our defense is one of the best in the league and is one of the reasons we are where we are in the league. Our midfield is non-existent at the moment and is only just holding up due to the fabulous N'golo Kante. Our front line however is the joint worst out of the top 6 due to our team being unable to break down stubborn defenses. 

All I ask is for somebody to counter my argument with some facts that Mahrez is an upgrade on what we've already got!

 
xXRuufioXx said:
I hate to come over like a broken record at the moment but I don't think people understand where I'm coming from in regards to Mahrez. I'll try and be clearer this time, maybe I haven't been before. I will agree that our defense if better than Leicester. Our defense is one of the best in the league and is one of the reasons we are where we are in the league. Our midfield is non-existent at the moment and is only just holding up due to the fabulous N'golo Kante. Our front line however is the joint worst out of the top 6 due to our team being unable to break down stubborn defenses. 

All I ask is for somebody to counter my argument with some facts that Mahrez is an upgrade on what we've already got!
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Mahrez is a dribbler with good finishing and vision, which we currently lack other than Hazard. Pedro is a pace player who finishes well, Willian is a great technical dribbler with little end product. Mahrez slots in on the right side of a 3-4-3 being left footed and has ability to shoot from outside the box, as well as put in decent crosses for Morata which we don't already have. He's certainly an upgrade.

 
RMCM said:
Mahrez is a dribbler with good finishing and vision, which we currently lack other than Hazard. Pedro is a pace player who finishes well, Willian is a great technical dribbler with little end product. Mahrez slots in on the right side of a 3-4-3 being left footed and has ability to shoot from outside the box, as well as put in decent crosses for Morata which we don't already have. He's certainly an upgrade.
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Yes, he doe's all those things for Leicester, like I keep saying.......Leicester! Hazard is the best dribbler at our club and probably in the League. But he has rarely been able to break down these stubborn defenses we've come up against this season. Mahrez is nowhere near as good as Hazard, so how on earth is he going to break them down. Just look at Mohamed Salah for instance. When he played for us he was playing against teams that sat back and soaked up all the pressure that we threw at them which countered his ability, which was and still is his speed and shooting from outside the box. As soon as he moved to Italy he was banging them in again. And unfortunately now he's playing for a team that plays to his strengths and is ten times the player he was then. Now I'm not comparing Salah and Mahrez in ability, but Mahrez will have to put up with the same sort of conditions that Salah did for us, and I just don't see what he has that will help us that we don't already have at our club.

 
xXRuufioXx said:
Yes, he doe's all those things for Leicester, like I keep saying.......Leicester! Hazard is the best dribbler at our club and probably in the League. But he has rarely been able to break down these stubborn defenses we've come up against this season. Mahrez is nowhere near as good as Hazard, so how on earth is he going to break them down. Just look at Mohamed Salah for instance. When he played for us he was playing against teams that sat back and soaked up all the pressure that we threw at them which countered his ability, which was and still is his speed and shooting from outside the box. As soon as he moved to Italy he was banging them in again. And unfortunately now he's playing for a team that plays to his strengths and is ten times the player he was then. Now I'm not comparing Salah and Mahrez in ability, but Mahrez will have to put up with the same sort of conditions that Salah did for us, and I just don't see what he has that will help us that we don't already have at our club.
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Salah never really got a chance to get going with us. And he's improved immensely, especially his finishing, in the time between then and now, as you said. Mahrez is not as good as hazard, no, but he provides a similar style of threat from another angle, which would prevent this quadruple marking of Hazard that shuts us down. Pedro suffers much the same fortune as Salah did, he rarely gets the space to run in behind, which is why he isn't super effective for us, but I still rate him. Mahrez adds the ability to beat a man that currently only hazard and willian possess in our side, but with the bonus of being both a good supplier and finisher, unlike willian who we all see is mightily inconsistent. 

 
RMCM said:
Salah never really got a chance to get going with us. And he's improved immensely, especially his finishing, in the time between then and now, as you said. Mahrez is not as good as hazard, no, but he provides a similar style of threat from another angle, which would prevent this quadruple marking of Hazard that shuts us down. Pedro suffers much the same fortune as Salah did, he rarely gets the space to run in behind, which is why he isn't super effective for us, but I still rate him. Mahrez adds the ability to beat a man that currently only hazard and willian possess in our side, but with the bonus of being both a good supplier and finisher, unlike willian who we all see is mightily inconsistent. 
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Listen, I hope you're right. And if he comes to us, I hope he does as well as your hoping. We won't know unless we do sign him, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the case this window. As for who we do sign! I refuse to get drawn into the Andy Carroll rumors, because if that is who we end up signing, I will be hugely disappointed. 

 
xXRuufioXx said:
Ok, lets take your title winning season as an example. At the beginning of that season not one team that played Leicester played against them as if they were playing against title contenders. It wasn't until the game against City in which you won 3-1 that teams actually stood up and took notice. After that most teams played not to lose, rather than trying to win, which meant that they sat back and packed out their defense to try and nullify your attack. Up until and including that game against City, Mahrez scored 14 goals and had 10 assists. Then came Arsenal which you lost, and from then on for the final 13 games where teams sat back to nullify your attack like they do now to Chelsea, guess how many goals Mahrez scored..........3. Guess how many assists he had.......1. 

So yes. He was one of one of you best players that season. Until he had to try and break down a packed defense.
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From Manchester City away Mahrez' card was marked, teams started doubling, tripling up on him which created space for others to contribute. Note that they still won 8 of the last 12 (not 13), even if 5 were 1-0s (two of which Mahrez scored in), he was still Leicester's go-to guy and most important player even if the "stats" dropped off.

How have Manchester City been obliterating defensively packed teams this year? Because they have so many creative players the other team can't really make any specific plans to identify and nullify any one primary threat and they simply get overloaded. One Mahrez is manageable. One Hazard is manageable. Hazard + Mahrez is lethal.

 
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Fatty_Speeding said:
From Manchester City away Mahrez' card was marked, teams started doubling, tripling up on him which created space for others to contribute. Note that they still won 8 of the last 12 (not 13), even if 5 were 1-0s (two of which Mahrez scored in), still Leicester's go-to guy and I'd say most important player even if the "stats" dropped off.

How have Manchester City been obliterating defensively packed teams this year? Because they have so many creative players the other team can't really make any specific plans to identify and nullify any one primary threat and they simply get overloaded. One Mahrez is manageable. One Hazard is manageable. Hazard + Mahrez is lethal.
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Good argument. And yes that is how City beat the pack defenses they come up against. My only counter would be that everyone of Citys front line are far better than Mahrez. 

P.S. There were 13 games after the City win, not 12.

 
xXRuufioXx said:
Good argument. And yes that is how City beat the pack defenses they come up against. My only counter would be that everyone of Citys front line are far better than Mahrez. 

P.S. There were 13 games after the City win, not 12.
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Aye my bad I was correcting you saying 13 after Arsenal away but then changed "Arsenal away" to "Manchester City away" after :slap_face:

Not sure if I'd agree the likes of Sterling are "far better" than Mahrez. Either way though Mahrez doesn't need to be better than Man City players at unlocking packed defenses for this argument, just Willian/Pedro. To whom he has far superior vision, passing, intelligence and close control.

 
Fatty_Speeding said:
Aye my bad I was correcting you saying 13 after Arsenal away but then changed "Arsenal away" to "Manchester City away" after :slap_face:

Not sure if I'd agree the likes of Sterling are "far better" than Mahrez. Either way though Mahrez doesn't need to be better than Man City players at unlocking packed defenses for this argument, just Willian/Pedro. To whom he has far superior vision, passing, intelligence and close control.
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We'll see if we sign him. How good is Carrolls close control???  :face_palm:

 
Man City favourite to sign him

christ they certainly have quality got to give them that

 
Quality player. Not sure he will start regularly for city though. 

Bernardo silva and Mahrez as rotation options. I wouldn't mind either of those starting for us. 

City don't mess about. Missed out on van dijk, sign laporta, missed out on Sanchez, sign Mahrez. 

 
After seeing what has happened with Dzeko and Giroud, there’s no chance in hell will we spend 50m on Mahrez. Gutting.

 
City don't f**k about.

Doing what we should have done when we won the title. Making your squad highly competitive with quality instead of average players.

Seems all the top sides are brining in quality while we take punts on unproven and over the hill players.

great

 
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