Squad contracts up in 2019

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So far I believe it is:

Cesc Fabregas 

Gary Cahill

Oliver Giroud

David Luiz

Willy Caballero 

Lucas Piazon

Robert Green

Any I am missing?

Think we should not renew these deals. Squad needs revolution imo not just evolution.

 
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David Luiz has rejected a contract offer apparantly. The Times reported that today.
He's free to negotiate with other clubs in a week now.

 
David Luiz has rejected a contract offer apparantly. The Times reported that today.
He's free to negotiate with other clubs in a week now.
One of our few leaders, but we need to put down long term roots to build a sarri team that can win things. I dont think he is part of that personally.

 
One of our few leaders, but we need to put down long term roots to build a sarri team that can win things. I dont think he is part of that personally.
I just fear we are going to replace him with some underwhelming signing. If we lose him for free i doubt the club will want to spend tons of money on his replacement.

 
One specific contract that runs out in 2020 is all I care about  :wink:

 
So far I believe it is:

Cesc Fabregas 

Gary Cahill

Oliver Giroud

David Luiz

Willy Caballero 

Lucas Piazon

Robert Green

Any I am missing?

Think we should not renew these deals. Squad needs revolution imo not just evolution.
If we want to be one of the top teams in Europe again, every one of those players needs to go IMO.

 
If we want to be one of the top teams in Europe again, every one of those players needs to go IMO.
Agreed, and I would add players who still have longer left on their deals like:

Zappacosta

Emerson

Alonso

Kovacic (I.e. dont make his loan deal permanent)

Baka

Drinkwater 

Moses

Pedro

Willian

Morata

Batman 

 
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Some people  :ohmy:

Sell 11 first team and main backup players? Including both left backs, our only back-up right back and 4 out of 5 attacking players.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

I've never looked at it, is that really how Fantasy Football works?

 
Some people  :ohmy:

Sell 11 first team and main backup players? Including both left backs, our only back-up right back and 4 out of 5 attacking players.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

I've never looked at it, is that really how Fantasy Football works?
We've lost a game so obviously our players are all terrible, oh and the coach has no idea what he's doing, and his signings are all terrible etc.... 

 
I just fear we are going to replace him with some underwhelming signing. If we lose him for free i doubt the club will want to spend tons of money on his replacement.
I think Christensen may take his place. We also have Ampadu coming through who is a mature player. In a season I reckon Ampadu can make that first team regularly. 

 
Excactly and thats the fear.

We've spent obscene amount of money on complete averages.
The thing is, 3 of those 4 players were bought as squad players, not first team. Morata is called average now, but before we bought him many people were raving about him.

There was no telling he would be as hopeless as he's been for us. You won't find many top clubs with lots of quality off the bench. Back up players are generally average or above average. 

No club can afford to buy first team quality players for the bench. Not to mention find time to play them as much as they would like. 

 
Some people  :ohmy:

Sell 11 first team and main backup players? Including both left backs, our only back-up right back and 4 out of 5 attacking players.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

I've never looked at it, is that really how Fantasy Football works?
It worked for City.

They shipped out all the player’s that was deemed not good enough and replaced them with actual quality.

Iheanacho, Bony, Nolito, Kolarov, Nasri, Joe Hart, Denayer, Navas, Zabaleta, Clichy, Caballero, Mangala and Sagna all out over a summer/January.

Same with Liverpool. Got rid of Ward, Klavan, Karius, Grujic, Flanagan, Can, Ings, Sakho, Leiva, Markovic and replaced them with top class.

So, I don’t see what’s oh so silly about axmans suggestion. Most of the players he mentioned are indeed not good enough for us.

To compete with the best teams we surely need to show real ambition and compete with the best teams in the market.

 
Sell 11 first? team and mai?n backup p?layer?s???
While overturning 18 players in the next six months is hardly realistic, this thread got me thinking, how many of the current squad will be on the roster to open the 2020/21 season in roughly 18 months?

Azpi

Rudiger

Loftus-Cheek

Jorginho

Ampadu

christensen

hudson-odoi 

Kepa

Barkley

Kante

even some of those would require an investment of time/opportunity in the very near future, mainly Hudson-Odoi 

compared to the starting XI now, we may only run Kepa, Azpi, Rudiger, Jorginho Kante out there in 18 months. 

One way or another, I can see a lot of turnover headed our way over the next 4 windows heading into the 20/21 season. 

 
if this thread was created with the purpose of proving that most of our recent buys has been crap then i say: Mission Accomplished!

 
The thing is, 3 of those 4 players were bought as squad players, not first team. Morata is called average now, but before we bought him many people were raving about him.

There was no telling he would be as hopeless as he's been for us. You won't find many top clubs with lots of quality off the bench. Back up players are generally average or above average. 

No club can afford to buy first team quality players for the bench. Not to mention find time to play them as much as they would like. 
That is were the mistake was made. Why would you buy players who are worse than the players they are supposed to be replacing? This attitude can only drive the overall quality of the squad downwards . For example if you think Alonso needs competition for his place you buy at least as good or better so Alonso has to fight for his place and he in turn would be the 'squad' player. Always buy for the first team or at the very least young players whose ceiling is seen as improving the first team. 

 
That is were the mistake was made. Why would you buy players who are worse than the players they are supposed to be replacing? This attitude can only drive the overall quality of the squad downwards . For example if you think Alonso needs competition for his place you buy at least as good or better so Alonso has to fight for his place and he in turn would be the 'squad' player. Always buy for the first team or at the very least young players whose ceiling is seen as improving the first team. 
That's a noble idea but unfortunately it doesn't always work that way in reality. Emerson was very good at Roma before he got injured so there was every reason to believe he's as good, if not a better full back than someone like Alonso. In fact, apart from Alonso's set piece taking, he may very well be. Plus, unless you buy a proven world class star (and those are rarely available and when they do they have a long line of suitors and a huge price tag) you always take a risk on pretty much any transfer target out there. If we had a shot at signing Marcelo or Alaba and went for Emerson instead, then I'd agree it was an odd move.

My concern is more along the lines of who was doing the scouting for some of our recent buys. I thought Bakayoko was sh*t long before we signed him. Had no idea about Zappacosta's existence, but the fact that he doesn't belong at that level should have been obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes. And the list continues.

 
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