Summer Exodus. Should we do it?

[terraloon]

Agree with this. I would though temper expectations on the three likely youngsters to be added to the squad. All and that includes Gallagher, will find it hard making a mark in the squad. They are well versed in the expectations of the club, this though is a serious step up from where they are at present.

The five sub rule to a degree will afford more opportunities for younger players.

I personally think that we can be bold and integrate Gallagher and Broja and probably Ampadu. All three are now established internatonals and have had very decent loans at Palace, Southampton and Venezia respectively. 
 

There are a couple of others that have had very good loans such as Colwill and Mattensen others such as Gilbert not so 

 

[coombsie]

Would like to see a clear out. Just cut our losses and draw a line under. 

Ones I definitely don't see any need for at CFC next season:

Kenedy

Barkley

CHO

Jorginho

Kepa

Sarr

Saul

Bats & Baka 

Seems Christensen is set for Barca and can see Azpi leaving too (we MUST keep Rudiger - whatever the cost)

Then others, TT needs to have a look at them between now and start of next season and either keep or offload:

Lukaku

Werner

Ziyech

Pulicic

RLC

Ampadu

No matter how many players we get rid of Bro', you are still not getting a game, unless its for United or Spurs 

 

[coombsie]

Kepa - OUT

Azpilicueta - KEEP 

Rudiger KEEP AT ALL COSTS

Christensen OUT

Sarr OUT

Kenedy OUT

Jorginho OUT

Barkley OUT

Cheek KEEP

Saul - ok only on loan anyway  OUT

Odoi OUT

Pulisic KEEP

Ziyech KEEP

Werner KEEP

Lukaku OUT (I will pay his fare)

If I have my math correct, that is 9 players out, which I think with Gallagher, Broja and Gilmour coming back from loans, means a net 6 players moving. There are new rules on loans coming in, so there will be others released such as Drinkwater, Batshuayi, Bakayoko, Rahman, Miazga, Ampadu and Anjorin leaving the Club.  We will now need to balance the books rather than lose £millions and the squad has been far too big for far too long. Two or three real quality signings, will make the squad look balanced and very strong indeed.

 

[strider6004]

I think we are going to struggle to offload players.

I think Saul will return to AM.

Christensen will leave.

Lukaku will likely go - big loss.

Jorginho might leave should an offer materialise.

That will probably then make us consider adding or reacquainting several to the loan army.

 

[dansubrosa]

Lukaku will likely go - big loss.

 

[forbzy]

I think we are going to struggle to offload players.

I think Saul will return to AM.

Christensen will leave.

Lukaku will likely go - big loss.

Jorginho might leave should an offer materialise.

That will probably then make us consider adding or reacquainting several to the loan army.

The loan army is going to have to come to an end. New FIFA rules in place starting July, mean a maximum of 8 players loaned out. The law does not apply to U-21 players, but most of our driftwood players are probably going to count in that law. I believe currently we have at least 14 players over the age of 21 out on loan.

 

[big blue]

These mass clear outs never come to fruition because we pay so well.

We have loads out of contract though so that should help. The playing staff needs trimming though. 

GK Mendy (back up) Bettinelli

CB T Silva Rudiger (starting level, pacy, ball playing) Colwill Chalobah

RB James (pacy technical back up)

LB Chilwell (pacy technical back up)

DM (starting level, athletic technical good passer) Ampadu/Gilmour

CM Mount Kovacic Gallagher RLC

RW Ziyech CHO

LW (starting level pace creativity end product) Pulisic 

CF Havertz Werner Broja

That is all that i think have a future here, and there are still massive question marks over at least 4 or 5 of them. 

So outgoings would be

Kepa, Azpi, Christiensen, Alonso, Jorginho, Kante, Barkley, Bakayoko, Emerson, Kenedy, Sarr, Lukaku. 

Unlikely, but might be able to move on most of them with quite a few either out of contract or coming into last 12 months.

Incomings

Colwill, Gallagher, Broja, and either Gilmour or Ampadu.

Kounde - Fast, good on the ball.

Angelino - Technically great, really good crosser, can play wb or lb.

Livramento - A year before his release clause kicks in, but signing anyone else would be silly. Surely we can work something out with Soton.

Tchouameni - Easier deal to get done than Rice, id be happy with either though, but I think Tchouameni edges it technically.

Nkunku - forget the 'bundesliga tax' he is much more suited to the premier league than Werner and Havertz were. Brilliant control under pressure, and has proved himself in the Champions League too.

Back up keeper, one that can play out to an acceptable level, but isnt on 200k+ per week. 

 

[strider6004]

The loan army is going to have to come to an end. New FIFA rules in place starting July, mean a maximum of 8 players loaned out. The law does not apply to U-21 players, but most of our driftwood players are probably going to count in that law. I believe currently we have at least 14 players over the age of 21 out on loan.

So effectively that means eight though with Broja and Gallager due to come back that means 6 will need to probably move on.

I guess we would look to keep on those players where the loanees pays the largest chunk of their fee.

 

[dansubrosa]

We should have taken the big offer from Bayern for Hudson Odoi.

 

[forbzy]

So effectively that means eight though with Broja and Gallager due to come back that means 6 will need to probably move on.

I guess we would look to keep on those players where the loanees pays the largest chunk of their fee.

I didn't include Broja in the 14 as heis  under 21. These are the players who would currently count based on age:

Nathan Baxter - Hull city

Juan Castillo - Birmingham City

Jamie Cumming - Gillingham

Jake Clarke-Salter - Coventry City

Conor Gallagher - Crystal Palace

Michy Batshuayi - Besiktas

Kenedy - Flamengo (although he is back at Chelsea now)

Emerson - Lyon

Matt Miazga - Alaves

Baba Rahman - Reading

Tiemoure Bakayoko - AC Milan

Danny Drinkwater - Reading

Dujon Sterling - Blackpool

Ethan Ampadu - Venezia

Beyond a few players that still may have a role at the club (clearly Conor and maybe Dujon Sterling/Ethan Ampadu ) most of the rest should be sold. But that is easier said than done as there won't be many takers for their high wages.

 

[strider6004]

I didn't include Broja in the 14 as heis  under 21. These are the players who would currently count based on age:

Nathan Baxter - Hull city

Juan Castillo - Birmingham City

Jamie Cumming - Gillingham

Jake Clarke-Salter - Coventry City

Conor Gallagher - Crystal Palace

Michy Batshuayi - Besiktas

Kenedy - Flamengo (although he is back at Chelsea now)

Emerson - Lyon

Matt Miazga - Alaves

Baba Rahman - Reading

Tiemoure Bakayoko - AC Milan

Danny Drinkwater - Reading

Dujon Sterling - Blackpool

Ethan Ampadu - Venezia

Beyond a few players that still may have a role at the club (clearly Conor and maybe Dujon Sterling/Ethan Ampadu ) most of the rest should be sold. But that is easier said than done as there won't be many takers for their high wages.

You can bet negotiating those took up a lot of Marina's time.

When we now talk of Exodus the real focus will probalby be moving on a number of the above. 

 

[strider6004]

I didn't include Broja in the 14 as heis  under 21. These are the players who would currently count based on age:

Nathan Baxter - Hull city

Juan Castillo - Birmingham City

Jamie Cumming - Gillingham

Jake Clarke-Salter - Coventry City

Conor Gallagher - Crystal Palace

Michy Batshuayi - Besiktas

Kenedy - Flamengo (although he is back at Chelsea now)

Emerson - Lyon

Matt Miazga - Alaves

Baba Rahman - Reading

Tiemoure Bakayoko - AC Milan

Danny Drinkwater - Reading

Dujon Sterling -Blackpool

Ethan Ampadu - Venezia

Beyond a few players that still may have a role at the club (clearly Conor and maybe Dujon Sterling/Ethan Ampadu ) most of the rest should be sold. But that is easier said than done as there won't be many takers for their high wages.

Those I have crossed through above have their contracts expiring this year. I assume they will be let go.

So with Gallagher presumably returning to SB leaves 5 more to be moved on.

 

[forbzy]

Those I have crossed through above have their contracts expiring this year. I assume they will be let go.

So with Gallagher presumably returning to SB leaves 5 more to be moved on.

Ideally the 5 most obvious to move on would be Batshuayi, Kenedy, Emerson, Baba Rahman, and Bakayoko. I have a feeling some of those will be difficult to shift even on a free transfer

 

[strider6004]

Ideally the 5 most obvious to move on would be Batshuayi, Kenedy, Emerson, Baba Rahman, and Bakayoko. I have a feeling some of those will be difficult to shift even on a free transfer

Bats contract is up in 2023 so we do pay him off?

Bakayoko if we take a big discount we can probably move on as Gattuso for one of the serie A clubs was interested in buying yet not at our prices back then. 

The sticking point might be the player's salary demands 

It will probably get messy and may be another reason the buying clubs (new CFC owners) want Marina to stay on a while to help sort out the loan army. 

 

[Deino]

I didn't include Broja in the 14 as heis  under 21. These are the players who would currently count based on age:

Nathan Baxter - Hull city

Juan Castillo - Birmingham City

Jamie Cumming - Gillingham

Jake Clarke-Salter - Coventry City

Conor Gallagher - Crystal Palace

Michy Batshuayi - Besiktas

Kenedy - Flamengo (although he is back at Chelsea now)

Emerson - Lyon

Matt Miazga - Alaves

Baba Rahman - Reading

Tiemoure Bakayoko - AC Milan

Danny Drinkwater - Reading

Dujon Sterling - Blackpool

Ethan Ampadu - Venezia

Beyond a few players that still may have a role at the club (clearly Conor and maybe Dujon Sterling/Ethan Ampadu ) most of the rest should be sold. But that is easier said than done as there won't be many takers for their high wages.

Keep Gallagher, Gilmour and Ampadu. The rest can generate 50~90m in sales

 

[strider6004]

Keep Gallagher, Gilmour and Ampadu. The rest can generate 50~90m in sales

Look where the others are playing,  with the exception of Bakayoko don't think we could get £10m in sales for the rest.

They will all know we need to offload players and offer bottom money.

Just remember when we tried to sell Bakayoko to the Italians we were miles apart 

 

[Bluesince66]

It's a new start for the owners whichever it is,just get rid of all the deadwood no matter what we get.

 

[bisright1]

Those I have crossed through above have their contracts expiring this year. I assume they will be let go.

So with Gallagher presumably returning to SB leaves 5 more to be moved on.

This only applies to international loans not domestic ones. 

 

[enigma]

I can't believe we are paying Lukaku £325k per week. We need to make contracts more sensible. Only pay a striker these wages when he reaches a certain number of goals. Saul on £198k and barely playing. 

Is this true? If so, some of these salaries are lower than they should be given their performances this season, others are just stupid for what little they've provided to the team. 

https://www.capology.com/club/chelsea/salaries/

 

[axman2526]

I can't believe we are paying Lukaku £325k per week. We need to make contracts more sensible. Only pay a striker these wages when he reaches a certain number of goals. Saul on £198k and barely playing. 

Is this true? If so, some of these salaries are lower than they should be given their performances this season, others are just stupid for what little they've provided to the team. 

https://www.capology.com/club/chelsea/salaries/

Is the hope the new owners will not allow this to happen and that true star players like Kante, Mount, James, Silva etc are reward where dross like Lukaku is not signed to begin with.