Super Frank Lampard

[SydneyChelsea]

One of them would be me.

My main critisism was he just wasn't seeming to be learning from his mistakes and if anything was worse in 2023 than he was in 2019. He felt at that point like the equivalent of the player that shows some initial promise but then gets to his 20s and all the rawness is still there but a lot of the promise gone.

You can say he didn't have great situations at Everton and Chelsea 2.0 which would be true, but Dyche took over and instantly improved, even with us it's easy to forget we totally outplayed Liverpool the day before he took over and within 3 days we looked a carbon copy of the situation he left in 2021 (where he had eventual UCL winners spiriling to a possible bottom half finish), and he couldn't get even to level Potter/Bruno left us, which in itself wasn't near good enough.

So far so good at Coventry and I truly do hope he can prove me wrong, but I can only go by what I saw at that point and by inlarge little to nothing between our return from lockdown and leaving us the second time had me convinced.

Me too, and I still stand by it because I thought he lacked genuine insight and humility to make changes - "the players are the problem, not my methods" mindset. He comes across as having a brilliant understanding of the game but just can't quite fathom why other people don't automatically see things the same way he does. For this reason, I've always doubted Lampard's ability to arrest a slide or turn things around in a slumped dressing-room. In his playing career, Lampard could be relied on to turn the fortunes of a club in a single moment, but on his own drive and initiative. It must be incredibly frustrating for someone like that to have to try and coach others to do something that came so naturally to him.

I hope that this stint with Coventry is the first step to changing this. Coventry are a very good side, perennial promotion contenders, and it seems that Lampard have taken them to level beyond even that by putting them in the same bracket as more established contenders like Leeds.

 

[dkw]

Me too, and I still stand by it because I thought he lacked genuine insight and humility to make changes - "the players are the problem, not my methods" mindset. He comes across as having a brilliant understanding of the game but just can't quite fathom why other people don't automatically see things the same way he does. For this reason, I've always doubted Lampard's ability to arrest a slide or turn things around in a slumped dressing-room. In his playing career, Lampard could be relied on to turn the fortunes of a club in a single moment, but on his own drive and initiative. It must be incredibly frustrating for someone like that to have to try and coach others to do something that came so naturally to him.

I hope that this stint with Coventry is the first step to changing this. Coventry are a very good side, perennial promotion contenders, and it seems that Lampard have taken them to level beyond even that by putting them in the same bracket as more established contenders like Leeds.

Very much like Glenn Hoddle in that players just arent able to do the things he finds "normal" and he couldnt understand why not. Apparently he was a nightmare in training early in his career as he would ask a player to knock a cross field pass 50 yards, then when they couldnt would just meander up and smack one right to the exact place he wanted. Very disheartening to players of lesser ability. But he learnt how to circumnavigate that, and theres nothing to say Lampard cant as well, hes still young as a manager (in age and experience).

Even if he has a career in the championship that doesnt make him a "sh*t manager" as some seem desperate to paint him (not you)

 

[dermott]

Not to forget that he had (and might still have, I don't know) an issue with managing individuals. Rudiger was a very strong personality, a leader on the field and in the dressing room. Lampard's response was to freeze him out. Ditto Alonso.

 

[SydneyChelsea]

Very much like Glenn Hoddle in that players just arent able to do the things he finds "normal" and he couldnt understand why not. Apparently he was a nightmare in training early in his career as he would ask a player to knock a cross field pass 50 yards, then when they couldnt would just meander up and smack one right to the exact place he wanted. Very disheartening to players of lesser ability. But he learnt how to circumnavigate that, and theres nothing to say Lampard cant as well, hes still young as a manager (in age and experience).

Even if he has a career in the championship that doesnt make him a "sh*t manager" as some seem desperate to paint him (not you)

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. I do think Hoddle, being as naturally gifted as he was, genuinely didn't know. Lampard doesn't recognise his own giftedness and tends to have bought into the notion that he was a product solely of hard work.

 

[Nibs]

Bad night at the office for Lamps. Coventry currently 3-0 down to Sheff Utd.

 

[Scott]

Forgot about this one, guess that's not a problem.

 

[dermott]

Bad night at the office for Lamps. Coventry currently 3-0 down to Sheff Utd.

Lampard said afterwards that it boiled down to making the most of chances. Coventry were never in it. But that's Coventry. Winning streaks, losing streaks, and you never know which is next. Same under Mark Robins. They would have come good again under him. Happened every season since forever. SU are a very good Championship side but will suffer if they get promoted. Ditto Leeds and, in particular, Burnley.

 

[DidierDrogbalala]

Frank Lampcard is pretty funny

 

[Nibs]

Lamps Coventry currently 6-0 up against QP Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...................................!!

 

[EdinburghBlue]

Lamps Coventry currently 6-0 up against QP Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...................................!!

Was a cracking game as well, hope he can get them promoted this year. Terrific weekend for Coventry, buying their stadium and getting their biggest ever home win at it within a matter of days, their supporters must be delighted!

 

[Nibs]

Another good win for Lamps Coventry last night - 4-0 over Millwall. Unbeaten and up to 2nd in the table.

Wasn't the right fit for us - it was a sentimental appointment, but so glad he's doing well and there's an argument to be had that he's a whole lot better coach than Maresca.

 

[strider6004]

Another good win for Lamps Coventry last night - 4-0 over Millwall. Unbeaten and up to 2nd in the table.

Wasn't the right fit for us - it was a sentimental appointment, but so glad he's doing well and there's an argument to be had that he's a whole lot better coach than Maresca.

Lamps followed Sarri and without Hazard so was always going to be a difficult season and it felt hard watching it as we came in 4th, lost to Arsenal in the FA final and went out in the knock-out stage to Bayern Munich. TT came in half way through the next season and brought back some success though I did not like the football style,

 

[Clearlake Cartel]

Another good win for Lamps Coventry last night - 4-0 over Millwall. Unbeaten and up to 2nd in the table.

Wasn't the right fit for us - it was a sentimental appointment, but so glad he's doing well and there's an argument to be had that he's a whole lot better coach than Maresca.

No argument whatsoever, a fact, yes, not an argument.

 

[dkw]

he's a whole lot better coach than Maresca.

 

[Scott Harris]

Another good win for Lamps Coventry last night - 4-0 over Millwall. Unbeaten and up to 2nd in the table.

Wasn't the right fit for us - it was a sentimental appointment, but so glad he's doing well and there's an argument to be had that he's a whole lot better coach than Maresca.

The problem with Lampard was that he was coaching too high too soon. From Derby to Chelsea to Everton, back to Chelsea, now at Coventry. He may be only good enough for the Championship, which is nothing to be ashamed of, but this is really where he should have stayed for 5 years before trying the Premier League.

 

[All Barco no bite]

The problem with Lampard was that he was coaching too high too soon. From Derby to Chelsea to Everton, back to Chelsea, now at Coventry. He may be only good enough for the Championship, which is nothing to be ashamed of, but this is really where he should have stayed for 5 years before trying the Premier League.

Quite funny that this passage perfectly describes our current manager.

 

[Bob stark]

The problem with Lampard was that he was coaching too high too soon. From Derby to Chelsea to Everton, back to Chelsea, now at Coventry. He may be only good enough for the Championship, which is nothing to be ashamed of, but this is really where he should have stayed for 5 years before trying the Premier League.

That is not the problem. He had 10 attackers and he tried to fit all of them and he tried to phase out jorgi and Azpi.

 

[All Barco no bite]

That is not the problem. He had 10 attackers and he tried to fit all of them and he tried to phase out jorgi and Azpi.

Jorgi should have been phased out the day after he was signed and we had Reece James, of course Azpi was going to play less in a back 4.

I see no issue with either of these things.

 

[bluelightening]

Chelsea News

"That's the truth" - Frank Lampard gives damning verdict...Former Chelsea player and then manager Frank Lampard has delivered a damning verdict on the club operations in some latest quotes.
On his second stint as manager... "I saw things there that I know can’t be right."

Dare I say those things may not have been addressed internally?

 

[Nibs]

Chelsea News

"That's the truth" - Frank Lampard gives damning verdict...Former Chelsea player and then manager Frank Lampard has delivered a damning verdict on the club operations in some latest quotes.
On his second stint as manager... "I saw things there that I know can’t be right."

Dare I say those things may not have been addressed internally?

Would be nice if he could shed a bit more light on that. We all know he's right - our club is not being run right, but I wonder what he is getting at specifically.