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axman2526 said:
@Dean I stated my belief a season finished with no top 4 OR the CL won would be a dismal failure and I stand by that.

You can lose finals, a bad game by key players, bad luck, Anthony Taylor etc etc. 

However the key point in that statement is the OR part.

Top 4 has been in our hands for some time, we put ourselves 3rd before Arsenal and now we are in real danger of missing out. Why? Because TT and the team took pish sides like Arsenal and WBA lightly and we got punished.

Both he  AND the players have shown they are more than good enough to make top 4 and if we dont it is a dismal failure on their part given where we got to and how we dropped out. Only thing that would save them if that happens is to win the CL.
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Fair enough Axman. The way I see it is - many thought he and the squad weren’t good enough. That they have proven they are, as you also acknowledge, is a success in itself, regardless of how the rest of the season pans out. It bodes really well for next season. And if if the current season does end in tears, and we don’t make the CL, how about this for a silver lining: we win the league next season!

 
Dean said:
Fair enough Axman. The way I see it is - many thought he and the squad weren’t good enough. That they have proven they are, as you also acknowledge, is a success in itself, regardless of how the rest of the season pans out. It bodes really well for next season. And if if the current season does end in tears, and we don’t make the CL, how about this for a silver lining: we win the league next season!
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Winning the league while in the Europa would mean we need to play a second string in all Europa games imo. Not sure we would do that.

 
To be honest, after this week results there's too much doom and gloom in the air as if Liverpool were undefeated the whole season and didn't just draw with Newcastle a game before. Yes, they may win all their remaining games (and so do we, who would've thought?), but they're 5th atm for a reason, and that's results against bottom feeder, very similar to ourselves with TT actually. 

Now I won't jinx us predicting anything, it's the final countdown and just about everything could happen in the next few weeks, but I'm excited as hell for this ending of the season! It could end in major success or a major letdown and thus we proceed to another crazy transfer window and revaluate the squad according to these last results... anyway... Let's go Chelsea! 

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Definitely nerve wrecking games ahead. Who would have thought that we were going to experience such an exciting end to the season a couple of months ago? Tuchel really did a fantastic job. 

 
reparto corse said:
Definitely nerve wrecking games ahead. Who would have thought that we were going to experience such an exciting end to the season a couple of months ago? Tuchel really did a fantastic job. 
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He really has, and now he needs to finish it in a fantastic way as well.

 
Hate to say this but not optimistic at all.  We've had our chances.  1 out of 9 points at home vs. WBA, Brighton and Arsenal will hold us back.  The damage was done earlier.

Real test for this Chelsea team.  They are incredibly talented, but just not sure some of them have the balls to be serial winners.

 
axman2526 said:
Winning the league while in the Europa would mean we need to play a second string in all Europa games imo. Not sure we would do that.
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We’ll win it regardless 😉 

I actually do think this, though trying to curb my enthusiasm 

 
reparto corse said:
Where is all this negativity coming from all of a sudden? 
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1. I have a pessimistic nature.

2. Having watched the last few matches and knowing how we struggle to break teams down, I haven't seen the spirit in our squad needed to fight for the results we want. It may be that we throw it all away in 3 weeks time.

 
We draw against Leicester, lose the CL final and Liverpool win out. 

 
Simple, win our last two matches and we qualify.

We played the A- team against Leicester now plat the A team. 

 
Valerie said:
1. I have a pessimistic nature.

2. Having watched the last few matches and knowing how we struggle to break teams down, I haven't seen the spirit in our squad needed to fight for the results we want. It may be that we throw it all away in 3 weeks time.
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Indeed same for me.

Blue Exile said:
We draw against Leicester, lose the CL final and Liverpool win out. 
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Maybe, though another 0-1 seems a good chance too.

 
The problem is that we have a group of players that are such a miss and hit that it is unbelievable. Pulisic can have a great match, then the following game has a stinker. The same for Havertz, he’s great in some games and then a passenger in the following matches. Jorginho, great in the CL and then he plays sh*t against Arsenal and Leicester. The only consistent players I see are Mount and the defenders bar Zouma. Inconsistency is killing our momentum every single time.

 
Leicester can approach the game this week a little more relaxed as a draw works ok for them. We need the win more so it will be important for us to take our chances and build a lead.If we beat Leicester I think we will make top 4, even though mathematically it will not be confirmed. Any other result and we will be relying on big help from other teams.

 
forbzy said:
Leicester can approach the game this week a little more relaxed as a draw works ok for them. We need the win more so it will be important for us to take our chances and build a lead.If we beat Leicester I think we will make top 4, even though mathematically it will not be confirmed. Any other result and we will be relying on big help from other teams.
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Even if we draw, we have better GD and they’d need to beat Spurs if we win at Villa. If we draw on Tuesday and they draw against Spurs while we win at Villa, we will end with the same points and it’s down to GD, which we are on 22 and they are on 21.

 
RMH said:
Even if we draw, we have better GD and they’d need to beat Spurs if we win at Villa. If we draw on Tuesday and they draw against Spurs while we win at Villa, we will end with the same points and it’s down to GD, which we are on 22 and they are on 21.
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I'm not convinced Spuds would do us any favours. If they finish 6th or 7th they enter that new European Conference League that is lower than the Europa League and has them playing games in all the arsehole places of Europe. This one is totally on us, win the two winnable games and we qualify.

 
Reasons to be hopeful:

Bale wants to shame Madrid so will be going for a goal,

Kane is on for the golden boot.

New manager bounce under Mason may last a bit longer.

 
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