VAR in 2019/20

[Tony Tone]

Firstly I am thankful that the Refs have stopped going over to the sidelines to watch the enitire game again before making a call, however like a few have mentioned VAR should only intervene on clear and obvious errors & maybe let each team have 1 review per half for a decision which they believe may have gone against them. At the moment there just seems to be this lack of clarity around the involvement of VAR on a game. Play should be allowed to continue and the Ref should make the decision and unless it is obviously incorrect the decision should stand.

In the City & Spurs game it seemed fairly obvious that the Ref was happy with the goal and even the Spurs players had accepted the decision and than VAR got involved which seemed absolutely ludicrous. 

Totally agree - the review of every decision is painful and takes some of what we love out of the game in my opinion. A limited number of reviews that can be initiated by the team could be one option as you say, plus refs could ask the VAR crew to take a look. I agree with Nuno Espirito Santo. I have come to accept that it is going to have a place in the game, but please not a painstaking review of every decision. Go with the ref, unless someone challenges them. 

 

[Nibs]

Well we all knew that VAR would come to hurt us at some point and boy what a complete f**ker yesterday.

The day before Spurs had an even worse decision and although we all laughed, you know something is seriously wrong when you find yourself feeling sorry for a hated rival. No question, the way VAR is being used right now it IS ruining the game. No true football fan can honestly say that goals being disallowed two minutes after a massive celebration because someone in the build-up was offside by their big toe, is a good thing for the game. In Mount's case, if his nose was a bit smaller he may have been onside! It's complete bollox and the game and supporters enjoyment is being ruined. I'm not interested in us getting a dodgy VAR call in our favour - I rather wouldn't win a game in such fashion.

At some point we will get another ludicrous VAR decision in a massive game that could decide a trophy or relegation and supporters will be excused for a riot. It has to be revised NOW.

#VARRUININGFOOTBALL

 

[andy]

Well we all knew that VAR would come to hurt us at some point and boy what a complete f**ker yesterday.

The day before Spurs had an even worse decision and although we all laughed, you know something is seriously wrong when you find yourself feeling sorry for a hated rival. No question, the way VAR is being used right now it IS ruining the game. No true football fan can honestly say that goals being disallowed two minutes after a massive celebration because someone in the build-up was offside by their big toe, is a good thing for the game. In Mount's case, if his nose was a bit smaller he may have been onside! It's complete bollox and the game and supporters enjoyment is being ruined. I'm not interested in us getting a dodgy VAR call in our favour - I rather wouldn't win a game in such fashion.

At some point we will get another ludicrous VAR decision in a massive game that could decide a trophy or relegation and supporters will be excused for a riot. It has to be revised NOW.

#VARRUININGFOOTBALL

I made the point in the match thread. I still don't understadn why it went to VAR ? .. Do they review every goal. No one semeed to be complaining from Liverpool, the goal was well worked and well deserved.  and was that reall a "clear and obvious error" ?  not in a million years. technically right like you say by a nose but there used to also be an offside rule about interferring with play and benefitting the attacking side, he was a gnats cock off right out on the touch line just doesnt seem to be in the spirit of thie thing at all.  

I am happy with VAR for the bigg decisions where there is some obvious doubt, personally but it has to be used consistently

 

[icecoolguy22]

I have no problem with the offside rule if it's going to be like this for the rest of the season, every goal scored will be examined for offside from the moment the attacking team pass forward the ball. Chances are after a few rounds where feathers are being roughened, the FA will take a step back and let the attacking team have the benefit of doubt or whatever excuse that comes handy, then the complete mess.

 

[Sindre]

It's horrific and damn near ruins the entire game the way it's used right now.

Does it's utmost best to ruin any excitement of a goal because everyone have to second guess if there may possibly have been the slightest of offsides at any point in the entire attack.

It was just pathetic yesterday how we celebrated the goal only to be left completely deflated while the away supporters were celebrating like they had just scored after the check which gave them a massive lift to go and extend the lead.

 

[charierre]

Can't say I'm it's greatest fan. With offside decisions VAR suffers from the same fault as having a normal lines person...when exactly does the ball leave the foot? Yet we are relying on miniscule decisions at the business end on images supplied by Sky. We surely have to return to clear and obvious error and stop trying to be so precise.Maybe a change of the offside rule would aid proceedings.

 

[axman2526]

Spoiling my enjoyment of the game that is for sure. More and more our beloved game moves towards NFL standards. Stop start, stop start. Wait a few minutes and we will decide if you get to keep your goal or not.

Twice against Liverpool a fractional choice cost us the game. 2-0 up in the supercup and we win a first trophy under Lamps, back to 1-0 gives Liverpool the lift, then does not spot Adrian way off his line to saves Tammy's pen. Though all goals were being reviewed? Or do shoot outs not count.

Then yesterday, kills our teams momentum. No way do we concede right away if that call had not been made on Daves goal. Not saying we go on to win, Liverpool may still well win but we will never know now.

System used by Dodgey people when they want to use it. Funny how it keeps helping Liverpool though eh?

 

[Upsetter]

Spoiling my enjoyment of the game that is for sure. More and more our beloved game moves towards NFL standards. Stop start, stop start. Wait a few minutes and we will decide if you get to keep your goal or not.

Twice against Liverpool a fractional choice cost us the game. 2-0 up in the supercup and we win a first trophy under Lamps, back to 1-0 gives Liverpool the lift, then does not spot Adrian way off his line to saves Tammy's pen. Though all goals were being reviewed? Or do shoot outs not count.

Then yesterday, kills our teams momentum. No way do we concede right away if that call had not been made on Daves goal. Not saying we go on to win, Liverpool may still well win but we will never know now.

System used by Dodgey people when they want to use it. Funny how it keeps helping Liverpool though eh?

As luck would have it, I've just been talking to a Scouser, but an Evertonian. Discussing yesterday's match, he said to me: "Yeah Liverpool, they get all the luck, don't they. We call them the Devil's Club."

Say no more.

 

[Munkunku]

What pissed me off was in the stadium the fans have no f**king clue what’s going on. They literally flashed an image up on the screen for a second then it went. Blink and you missed it. I feel like we should be seeing exactly what they’re looking at while they’re looking at it. 

It’s still all down to some random blokes interpretation of the game. 

 

[strider6004]

What pissed me off was in the stadium the fans have no f**king clue what’s going on. They literally flashed an image up on the screen for a second then it went. Blink and you missed it. I feel like we should be seeing exactly what they’re looking at while they’re looking at it. 

It’s still all down to some random blokes interpretation of the game. 

Good to get the pitch side perspective.

 

[axman2526]

What pissed me off was in the stadium the fans have no f**king clue what’s going on. They literally flashed an image up on the screen for a second then it went. Blink and you missed it. I feel like we should be seeing exactly what they’re looking at while they’re looking at it. 

It’s still all down to some random blokes interpretation of the game. 

Some random bloke being told what to do.

 

[icecoolguy22]

People made a great point above about fans celebrating a goal being ruled out for whatever trivial offense, isn't that anti football? Back in the normal days ( before this season), referee or lines people called earlier, everyone just move on. Now days, the VAR doesn't do anything until 2-3 minutes after the goal is scored and players return to position, then rule out and kill off people's mood and passion. If they want 100% correctness, they really should check every referee decision. I'm just being grumpy here, if we do a VAR about the Azpi foul for the second goal, most likely referee could take it off and play on. Then you got stud up tackles not being VAR, or penalty call, because somehow we reply on referee to get it right. Sure, we don't want football to be played with start and stop every 3 minutes but if we demand perfection, why just limit it to offside?

 

[erskblue]

Everytime referee makes a decision, players will be all around him asking for VAR. Some referees won't be making the tough decisions at all, just wait for the VAR. I don't think it will help at all, in fact over use of TV replay just make people lose more faith in the referees and be grumpy about every decisions on the field.

Your comments last Nov look spot on now mate !

 

[Upsetter]

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Oh I'd rather see refs f**k up than have VAR
I'd rather see refs f**k up than have VAR
Rather see refs f**k up
Rather see refs f**k up
Rather see refs f**k up than have VAR
VAR OUT

We all hate VAR and VAR and VAR
VAR and VAR and VAR and VAR 
And VAR and VAR and VAR
We all f**king hate VAR
VAR OUT

VAR is atrocious
Football ain't the same
We're in agreement
That VAR will wreck the game
VAR OUT

Looking back on this trio of ditties I put pen to way back in August. Serious question. Does anyone still think VAR in the Premier League is a good idea!

 

[Zeta]

It is really ruining my enjoyment of football. I can't remember the last time I actually celebrated a goal, because you then have to wait and see if there is some tiny push or half a toe offside for them to rule it out and justify their own positions.

 

[Munkunku]

It is really ruining my enjoyment of football. I can't remember the last time I actually celebrated a goal, because you then have to wait and see if there is some tiny push or half a toe offside for them to rule it out and justify their own positions.

It’s ok if your team is from the north and plays in red though...

 

[Scott Harris]

At this point, I despise it. It's sucking the life out of the game, or maybe I should be saying the officials in charge of it are the ones doing that. It's not just against us either, even though we are one of the teams suffering the most because of it. I remember some people were saying it would make things better because it would cancel out the refs clear and obvious errors......well it doesn't actually do that, it just adds to it. 

In the past, I would get mad at refs missing things or getting a wrong decision against us, but at least then they always had the excuse that they didn't see it properly. But now, they don't have that excuse, and that just makes me even angrier and question what the hell is going on. How is it possibly to be getting these decisions so wrong? They have replays, they see what we see on the tv, but they can look at it as many times as they like. How is it still possible for them to be getting so many decisions wrong? They cannot be this stupid. Also, why are the pundits and media not saying this? All they say is "oh, it's the consistency that's wrong". Go into a bit more detail, say what the the rest of country is saying.

After tonights game, I honestly think I have come as close as I have ever been to giving up on football. I couldn't watch anymore of the match after seeing the player that should have been sent off scoring against us. It was bad enough seeing that kind of sh*t happen without VAR, but with VAR, it made it ten times worse. 

During the winter break, I was actually enjoying the break from football and wasn't really looking forward to it returning. For a while, football has been becoming less and less entertaining to watch, and they have added something that has made it even less entertaining. It's honestly just making me frustrated and angry more than anything else these days.

 

[axman2526]

It is really ruining my enjoyment of football. I can't remember the last time I actually celebrated a goal, because you then have to wait and see if there is some tiny push or half a toe offside for them to rule it out and justify their own positions.

Part of why am not sure how many more Chelsea games I may watch this season. I have not been enjoying them for some time.

 

[Jezz]

I was the opposite. I was very excited to have football return after a two-week break.

On VAR, the common theme across the whole competition is it's "ruining football", and it's a position I wholeheartedly agree with.

We were denied a rightful goal last night and Maguire should have been sent off for his kick on Batshauyi. The second disallowed goal from Giroud was iffy, but for all intents and purposes I think it was just offside.

 

[dkw]

Part of why am not sure how many more Chelsea games I may watch this season. I have not been enjoying them for some time.

Thats me done with football this season, I`ll see what happens to VAR in the summer and may watch again next season but if it stays the same then I wont bother.