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Sconnie Blue said:
Nor because he's average at 20 doesn't mean he'll be average forever. He's just got out of being an adolescent. 

If we want to become a club where we will make 10x profit on our players we need to send them to the right clubs. Loaning to relegation fodders should become a thing of the past with how Santos did in contrast. Santos was getting slated by Forrest fans during his loan and he couldn't even get into Forrest's team. Forrest actually preferred paying the penalty we put on the loan deal than to actually play Santos. These types of loans don't work well with younger players. 

If Santos is an example of how good the environment is at Strasbourg than Lesly should 100% be sent there next. 
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If we want to be a club that makes 10x profit on players we shouldn't be spending 27.5M on limited holding midfielders. 

I don't disagree with what you're saying but even after the Forest deal we would have still made profit on Santos is we wanted to cut ties. 

Ugochukwu was always too much money for the talent on show. Same as Washington. 

 
Ukraine Bolt said:
If we want to be a club that makes 10x profit on players we shouldn't be spending 27.5M on limited holding midfielders. 

I don't disagree with what you're saying but even after the Forest deal we would have still made profit on Santos is we wanted to cut ties. 

Ugochukwu was always too much money for the talent on show. Same as Washington. 
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It's unrealistic he'd make it here but its quite easily for us to make a profit on Lesly. He's on a 7 year deal and his remaining book value is at £20m. 

If he develops as expected at Strasbourg in 2-3 years time the club could realistically make a £20-£25m flip profit.

 
axman2526 said:
Recall Santos in January, Recall Lesley in January, send Lesley to Strasbourg and keep Santos. Even better.
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Just nudging this post... ☝️

A forgotten man who is now in the midfield of the saints and getting minutes. 25 Million for the guy and in an ideal world he would be competing with Lavia in our squad? Again, I couldnt understand buying him to not integrate him with the first team. 

 
bluetrooper said:
Just nudging this post... ☝️

A forgotten man who is now in the midfield of the saints and getting minutes. 25 Million for the guy and in an ideal world he would be competing with Lavia in our squad? Again, I couldnt understand buying him to not integrate him with the first team. 
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He might yet get recalled. Will see, might have something to do with if we are able to get other players out and cannot make signings.

 
axman2526 said:
He might yet get recalled. Will see, might have something to do with if we are able to get other players out and cannot make signings.
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I'd welcome a recall if it meant we saw useful minutes from him. I simply dont get how Maresca isnt in charge of who comes and goes or is part of his squad when the players we've signed are all within the clubshouse rules. 

Chalobah is one of if not our best performing CB statistically according to this... Does rate Tosin higher in one metric... https://sports.yahoo.com/signing-trevoh-chalobah-compares-chelsea-135100837.html#:~:text=In comparison%2C Chalobah averaged 57.75,and Axel Disasi (44.44%).

I simply cant fathom how Cilwell isnt allowed to stake a claim in the side and therefore increase his reputation for sale or improve the squad quality. 

So yeah, we signed a ton of players, lets start seeing if theyre any good, cause clearly the ones signed last summer are not good enough for maresca along with some of the high profile signings, Nkunku, Felix, Neto, Mudryk, KDH etc.. 

 
Wonder what happens with this bloke.

I like the concept of Essugo in due time, but he's nowhere near the level of Ugochukwu as of today, and shouldn't be apart of the squad ahead of Ugochukwu. Actually I believe Essugo needs to play a lot more football and could do with a loan himself.

On a pure attribute by attribute basis as well I'd prefer Ugochuwku. He's also a profile that we're lacking. Extremely tall midfielder who's comfortable in all phases of possession. Super athlete that can carry the ball across large space and very technical.

Sad the way it's played out so far with him. Never really given a chance.

 
Wonder what happens with this bloke.

I like the concept of Essugo in due time, but he's nowhere near the level of Ugochukwu as of today, and shouldn't be apart of the squad ahead of Ugochukwu. Actually I believe Essugo needs to play a lot more football and could do with a loan himself.

On a pure attribute by attribute basis as well I'd prefer Ugochuwku. He's also a profile that we're lacking. Extremely tall midfielder who's comfortable in all phases of possession. Super athlete that can carry the ball across large space and very technical.

Sad the way it's played out so far with him. Never really given a chance.
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I personally can’t see it with Uguchuku. I might be missing something with him but I just see nothing aside from physical attributes.

 
I personally can’t see it with Uguchuku. I might be missing something with him but I just see nothing aside from physical attributes.
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He's very comfortable in the first phase, press resistant and has some untapped final third attributes. He also has huge physical upside.

I think people forget he's only 21 years of age and was putting up famed performances against PSG in the league as a teen.

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Was pretty much considered a generational talent coming out of the Rennes academy and was viewed as France's future six from a young age

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He also had good performances last season in the league in a dysfunctional Southampton side.

Not that he's a finished article by any means, but his talent level is rare and I think it'd be a mistake to not prioritise his development for dime a dozen player like Essugo and hot take Andrey Santos who, while still a good talent, is a diet diet diet Caicedo at best.

 
just waiting for a witty "stop talking to yourself" post 🙂
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If it were a game of limbo, the bar for wit on this forum would be rivaling the standards for Mr Jehovah at the club.

 
Please stop trying to be edgy.
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I like Andrey and have liked him since his first pre-season tour with us in the US under Poch

and he's developed brilliantly, I just think he's a tad bit overrated by our fanbase. I know his sofascore rating streak was out of this world and his microstats were only matched by Vitinha and Neves in L1. He's also done fantastic for Brazil and at Vasco, but watching some Strasbourg last season I felt like he was a bit behind the way our fans spoke of him.

I still think Andrey is absolutely Chelsea standard, but I rate Lesley just as high and that isn't slander. Both are super prospects for their age, just taken different paths.

My main issue is Essugo, who was alright at Las Palmas but it feels slightly Amougou-ish heading into this upcoming season.

I don't think Maresca will trust him at all to play serious minutes and he's very green. Lesley should be here instead.

 
He's quite clearly a very good player, great technique and passing but lacking the experience to develop the off the ball stuff. I can see why we took the punt and he we picked a better loan destination things might have gone differently.

I hope we put in a buy back clause though, if he develops the mental side of his game he will be a top player.

 
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