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What changes would you like to see to our formation and positional set up?

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Delnino said:
If all goes well

----------Courtois----------

Azp--Stones--JT--Baba

------Zouma--Matic-------

Willian---Cesc---Hazard

------------Costa------------

Natural width with both FB's bombing on, 2 destroyers in the pivot and plenty of flair and creative ability behind Costa.

Rotate Ivan/Cahill/Ramires/Moses/Traore/Oscar/Falcao where necessary.
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Really don't think zouma is defensive midfielder on a weekly basis. Not good enough technically to play midfield in games where we dominate possession.

Everyone wants to see azpiliucueta in his natural position, and I think the sane has to be said of zouma.

Rather than shoehorning a player into a position, if we don't think fabregas and matic is right going forward, we should either play rlc, or sign a player that is better suited to play there.

 
I'm suprised nobody has gone for Oscar playing deeper, i think it could work. It's becoming clearer and clearer to see that Fabregas playing next Matic isn't quite working anymore, i'm starting to think he has been found out when playing there. I know in the past Fabregas playing behind the striker hasn't quite worked for us, but usually that is because we are playing with defensive tactics, i think we should play Fabregas there more and get him used to the position for us because he is a passanger of late in his current position.

Mourinho tried playing Oscar next Matic in pre season and it worked, Oscar has better attributes than Fabregas for that position. He can track back better than Fabregas, opposition midfielders won't run around him easily, he can tackle, he is quicker than Fabregas, he can shoot and he can pass well enough.

Fabregas can't seem to control our passing game or create chances anymore, changing him and Oscar around could make him dangerous again.

 
I think that would hurt us even more going forward. Swapping the two only works if Cesc is playing well. I dont think playing a low block defensively suits him either. Leaves too much space for him.

 
Could we ever play Hazard as a pure striker?

And in the same breath, could we ever use Matic as a CB?

 
coco said:
We can't afford the luxury of playing Fabergas if he can't defend. Surely he is not your typical hard working and strong Mourinho player, so when he offers next to nothing in attack, he is basically defunct.
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Just thought I'd point out that so far this season Fabregas leads the teams in tackles per game (3.5) and is second in interceptions per game(2.5). I just remember him vs City specifically getting into a ton of good tackles despite the score he's gotten from some. He has really boosted this side of his game since joining the club. Was also just behind Matic and Luis in tackles per game last season too.

 
Scott Harris said:
I'm suprised nobody has gone for Oscar playing deeper, i think it could work.
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I have only mentioned it for about 20 times here. I wish Jose would try it. Oscar is better at harrassing players than giving the decisive pass IMO. He has a slight build so he can run around for 90min with ease.
 
evissy said:
I have only mentioned it for about 20 times here. I wish Jose would try it. Oscar is better at harrassing players than giving the decisive pass IMO. He has a slight build so he can run around for 90min with ease.
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Would require a LOT of work on the training ground though. Has the capabilities, but playing deeper would mean he is defensively liable. Will have to track runners, positionally be sound in terms of shielding the ball into the front.

Big difference in CM to no10. Definately think it could work though, especially at home to some of the smaller teams when 2 DMs arent necessary.

 
Now we have pedro that is going to play on the right, and we don't rate Willian as an attacking force, could he play next to Matic?, he has the drive, pace, can tackle, and just pass the ball to our attackers, without trying to bamboozle himself, thus pushing Cesc forward, then he may not have to be as reliant on his defending, we need to utilise his goal scoring threat which we haven't really seen since his arriva, but we know its in his locker!!l

 
....................Tibo

Dave.....Zouma...Terry....Baba

............................Matic

...............Oscar

Willian (Pedro)..Cesc (Wilian)....Hazard

.................Costa

 
A 433 with Costa/Hazard/Pedro or Costa/Hazard/Remy should be the go for us. We just became too slow and static after our early season form last year, I believe Jose will go back to his trusted 433 now he has Pedro at his disposal.

 
for a 4-3-3 could we maybe do this?

........................Tibo

Dave........Zouma...Terry.....Baba  

.....................Matic

......Cesc(Rami).....Oscar

Pedro (Willian)................Hazard

..................Costa

I fully admit that Baba's inclusionis probably more at my frustration over this season and last caused by Ivan.  Love the big guy, a great, but he's getting smoked out there.

 
This is obviously too much to implement but always crossed by mind if we could use wing backs theoretically with our squad something like:

 -------------------Ivan/Cahill-----Zouma-------JT/Cahill-------------------

Dave---------------------------------------------------------------Baba

----------------------------------Matic--------------------------------

Pedro---------------------------Fab/Oscar/Willian------------Hazard

-------------------------------Costa----------------------------------

Ivan and JT sit deep, Zouma pushing up slightly helping Matic between the lines when need be, Dave and Baba pushed up cutting out the counters higher up the ptich and tracking back inside when needed, Matic bossing the middle keeping the tempo...could be a stoke of genius or be completely sh*t, I just think that fabs position is wasted he isn't really a Dm and isn't really a CM, he doesn't know what he is supposed to be doing, and 2 DM is over kill most of the time

 
Wing backs would suit our defense with Bran and Zouma on the outside of the 3 CBs. Matic is perfect for dropping back into the defense when we lose the ball as well. Our wingers play narrow anyway so having numbers in the center wouldnt be as much of a problem. Dont think we'll be doing it but I like that idea

 
TheChelseaBlues said:
Wing backs would suit our defense with Bran and Zouma on the outside of the 3 CBs. Matic is perfect for dropping back into the defense when we lose the ball as well. Our wingers play narrow anyway so having numbers in the center wouldnt be as much of a problem. Dont think we'll be doing it but I like that idea
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Yea pretty certain we won't also, just a thought for fun more than anything 

 
Pedro - Willian - Hazard

The pace and interchanging options with these three is brilliant. Then have Azpi and Baba making overlapping runs and watch out.

 
Courtois

Azpi, Zouma, JT, Baba

Oscar/Willian Matic Cesc

Pedro Costa Hazard

Imagine if we had someone like Essien in his prime?

 
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