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BrazilBlue said:
Former FIFA president Joao Havelange admitted that the 66 world cup was fixed. He said Referees and official were paid off to make sure they let the top players on other teams be fouled without free's our cards given. Their were also questionable offside decision given against Brazil and Portugal. Personally I don't blame the English team, players, or manager. If their was a fix, It most likely came form higher up in the FA or maybe from the government. England had allot to gain by winning the World cup. It was probably a huge economic boost. Maybe the FA wanted to make sure England won it, Would have been worth allot of money to everyone evolved,
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Admitted? Don't you mean "alleged"? Havelange being every bit as self-serving as Sepp Blatter when he was FIFA President. And that's not all. This excerpt from Havelenge's Wikipedia page gives an idea of the character or the man whose word you're asking us to take:

"In May 2006 British investigative reporter Andrew Jennings' book Foul! The Secret World of FIFA: Bribes, Vote-Rigging and Ticket Scandals (Harper Collins) caused controversy within the football world by implicating Havelange in an alleged international cash-for-contracts scandal following the collapse of FIFA's marketing partner ISL, and revealed how some football officials have been urged to secretly repay the sweeteners they received. In 2011, Jennings told Brazil's Senate that Joao Havelange may have amassed $50m or more in bribes through a front company called Sicuretta."

 
It's all Brazilian sour grapes, IMHO. The logic is, if Brazil doesn't win the Cup, then it's because the fix must have been in.

 
wxwax said:
It's all Brazilian sour grapes, IMHO. The logic is, if Brazil doesn't win the Cup, then it's because the fix must have been in.
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Certainly comes across that way doesnt it, which is quite pathetic really.

 
I'll be supporting Ireland BTW. For no serious reason other than that I have always liked them as a team. Something about their team spirit and pride in their jersey. Something I admire. Mexico have a similar vibe.

 
BumsteadCFC said:
Rattins got sent off in the quarters v england for basically nothing. Its on youtube.
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I always thought that red was more down to the brutal challenges he and his team mates had put in on England up until then.

 
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Lamps out. I seen some muppets on other football sites saying "good"

One more reason not to follow England.

I did this thread back in feb and aint changed my views - not supporting England but I will support ALL Chels players at the tournament irrespective of nationality.

 
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BumsteadCFC said:
Lamps out. I seen some muppets on other football sites saying "good"

One more reason not to follow England.

I did this thread back in feb and aint changed my views - not supporting England but I will support ALL Chels players at the tournament irrespective of nationality.
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I think this is ridiculous . Just because our players are hated by others that shouldn't be a reason not to follow England. Kalou and Bosingwa have been bad mouthed plenty of times by Chelsea fans but you don't see our fans turning their backs on the club.

I hate the way the media gets on some of the Chelsea players backs , i hate the fans that talk crap about our players but i will never stop supporting England because of it. What are you going to say if no Chelsea players get picked one day ? are you going to say you won't support them because of that ?

Not everyone is going to have the same opinion as us about our players , we say Gerrard is over rated and shouldn't be picked for England and Liverpool fans say the same thing about Lamps , it's just the way it is. Would you stop supporting Chelsea if things get tough ? no you won't , the same should go for England too.

You take the good and the bad as a fan , if you back out when things don't go the way you like it then your just another glory hunter.

 
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Scott Harris said:
What are you going to say if no Chelsea players get picked one day ? are you going to say you won't support them because of that ?
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Read the OP from February.

I was never much of an England fan to begin with due to the fact that Kerry Dixon got f**k all caps, this business with JT losing the captaincy and the constant slagging of Chelsea players by media and fans sent me over the edge.

The England team can do one.

 
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Read the OP from February.

I was never much of an England fan to begin with due to the fact that Kerry Dixon got f**k all caps, this business with JT losing the captaincy and the constant slagging of Chelsea players by media and fans sent me over the edge.

The England team can do one.
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Well that is pathetic.

 
So many reasons to hate England, so many reasons to love Chelsea. I don't feel even slightly bad that I couldn't care less how the English national team do.

(although I will of course be cheering on Ashley and JT)

 
Far too patriotic to say that I wont support England but I always want gerrard to fail and I couldn't bare to see him as the captain that wins something for England. So I'll watch and I'll cheer them on but I'll be slightly relieved to see them go out in the quarters.

 
Why did someone use the words BLIND PATRIOTISM...You either love your countrys team or you dont..Surely anyone that loves England and the England team and want em to do well are not childishly gonna say they dont give a f**k how they perform because certain fans dont like chelsea players...Or there are no players in the team etc....We all love our players and feel protective towards the people who feel its VOGUE to copy each other and slag our lot off..(but) supporting England should be a totally different kettle of fish. Come on ENGLAND, show every european country we are the best in europe..With or without lamps..

 
How can you not support the national team? It's treason.

I blanked em after the last world cup for a number of obvious reasons.

I was disgusted.

Now's they're chance to prove themselves.

 
I just hope that when England go out, it's because of some gaffe by a non-Chelsea player. Gerrard can handle in the box or something and give away a PK. Seeing as how 3/4 of the back are Chelsea players, I worry that someone will be grabbing headlines for the wrong reason.

 
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Nowhere near as pathetic as blind patriotism.

Dont complain when JT is blamed for Englands failures this summer Scott. Ill just say I told you so.
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I'll just do what i always do , IGNORE IT . So what if the media blames Terry ? you know how good a player he is , why do you listen to these people ?

 
AND..watch all those fickle bar stewards praising one of our players scoring the winning goal. Smile to yourself and know jt scored the goal that got every England fan jumping for joy.

 
Drew England in the work sweep.

So...Engerland, Engerland, Engerland

 
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