20/21 League Position

Final position ?

  • 1

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • 2

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 15 24.2%
  • 4

    Votes: 17 27.4%
  • 5

    Votes: 10 16.1%
  • 6

    Votes: 8 12.9%
  • 7

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • 8

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • 9

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • 11-17

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • relegated

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62

coco

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Time to reevaluate which final league position

Below is what we were expecting from Frank.

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This season is so unpredictable so I’m not sure. Anything from 8th to 3rd is possible given the mixed results over the past months. Whether we make top 4 imo will be reliant on whether Spurs and Leicester bottle it again like last season.

 
4th

We have a history of doing much better and achieving our targets after changing managers mid-season. The honeymood period has to be really, really strong in this case however, but I believe in the end we'll make it there after a couple of teams above us implode. Still a long way to go though and anything can happen.

 
I’m not sure there will be a honeymoon period under Tuchel. It has to be the most underwhelming appointment of a manager under Roman, because of how we sacked Frank, nothing to do with Tuchel’s ability. I forgot about Benitez but you get the point I’m making.

I expect Tuchel to get us firing again eventually though.

 
10th. I don't see us clawing our way back up at the moment. Things could change, Tuchel has a huge workload ahead of him

 
6th.

Just think it will be an uphill battle to finish in the top 4.

 
84 points is our current ceiling .... I think anything over 70 would be remarkable, but 62-66 most likely.

That might be enough for 4th, but more likely 5th or 6th. 

If we can start beating the teams above us that will be a huge help !

 
6th. Just think there are too many teams above us. For us to now finish 4th they all need to have a bad run with us having a title winning run of games. 

 
I put 6th down on vote, but the way this season is going, any team that wins 4 or 5 games back to back will be on a title charge let alone a top 6 finish, saying that we aren't going to win league so hope City pull away into the sunset, so as to piss Sky off so they can't have orgasms over a close title race, then 2/3/4th will be a bun fight for the final places. To be totally honest not the be all and end all where we finish, more importantly just want to get back to the Bridge and away games for the day out, been along time since Everton at home and Bournemouth away last year.

 
7th. Hopefully two or three teams above us will not be able to sustain their good form (Villa, Arsenal, West Ham and Everton among the contenders), and our form will pick up. 

 
If we get on some good run of form then fifth place is possible and that's the maximum.We would have to be on some title winning form to get top4.So probably 12-13 wins and we get top 4 haha

 
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Expecting 5th or 6th, we have left ourselves with too much to do to get top 4 in my opinion.

Although if we go out to Atletico, which is very probable, then maybe it will benedit us in the run in, but we are relying on a number of teams to go through pretty poor form, while we put together title challenger form, which is the sort of run we havent seen since Conte 2nd season when we won 14/18 between the Burnley loss on the opening day, and the arsenal 2-2 on new years day.

Big ask for a manager coming in mid season.

 
We picked up 29 points from the first half of the season, and we know that was not acceptable to the board. So I imagine they expect an improvement on that tally from the second half of the season. If Tuchel manages to turn improve our tally from the first half by a couple of wins we could realistically finish on mid 60's in terms of points. I reckon we will finish outside top 4, but if we somehow get close to 70 points we will have a chance. Realistically I think somewhere between 6th and 8th. If Tuchel can build some confidence perhaps we can make a run in the FA Cup, or even surprise a few people in the Champs League.

 
4th spot finish

  • 1995/1996 = Aston Villa (63 points)
  • 1996/1997 = Liverpool (68 points)
  • 1997/1998 = Chelsea (63 points)
  • 1998/1999 = Leeds United (67 points)
  • 1999/2000 = Liverpool (67 points)
  • 2000/2001 = Leeds United (68 points)
  • 2001/2002 = Newcastle United (71 points)
  • 2002/2003 = Chelsea (67 points)
  • 2003/2004 = Liverpool (60 points)
  • 2004/2005 = Everton (61 points)
  • 2005/2006 = Arsenal (67 points)
  • 2006/2007 = Arsenal (68 points)
  • 2007/2008 = Liverpool (76 points)
  • 2008/2009 = Arsenal (72 points)
  • 2009/2010 = Tottenham Hotspur (70 points)
  • 2010/2011 = Arsenal (68 points)
  • 2011/2012 = Tottenham Hotspur (69 points)
  • 2012/2013 = Arsenal (73 points)
  • 2013/2014 = Arsenal (79 points)
  • 2014/2015 = Manchester United (70 points)
  • 2015/2016 = Manchester City (66 points)
  • 2016/2017 = Liverpool (76 points)
  • 2017/2018 = Liverpool (75 points)
  • 2018/2019 = Tottenham Hotspur (71 points)
  • 2019/2020 = Chelsea (66 points)

Points range = 60-79

80+ points would guarantee a top 3 spot.

The maximum we can attain is 84 points, assuming we won every single match from now until the end of the season.

Since 2006, you've needed a minimum of 66 points to have any chance of a top 4 finish. That would mean 36 points in 18 games if we're to reach it. My guess is roughly 70 points will get you a top 4 spot this season.

Liverpool was sitting 4th after 19 games with 34 points this season. If the form of all clubs including them remained the same, they would attain 68 points for the entirety of the season.

 
We are now looking to other teams to drop points we are in a tuff position to get top 4 certainly not in our hands even if we win all our remaining matches. 

 
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