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Another Winger! - Noni Madueke

Despite Noni’s best efforts we actually do create a good amount of chances.

And yes, he is less valuable than Gittens who looked good at CL level and is younger. Not sure how old Elanga is but he’s looked better than Noni in a worse team.
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Which CL games did he impress you in to make you value him more than Noni?

 
Which CL games did he impress you in to make you value him more than Noni?
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His best game was probably Madrid, worse Barcelona and he ranged from alright to good in the rest.

 
I could definitely see us selling him now, in the context of the punishments from UEFA. As long as the fee is fair, I won't be devastated, although I do appreciate his qualities.

 
Ranking our forwards/wingers before new signings - Palmer, Neto, Noni, George, Nkunku

Adding new signings, Noni slips below Estevao and Joao Pedro. Nkunku is looking interested again, and Gittens profile suggests either of these two could play ahead of Noni. Thats before Quenda and Paez are even considered.

I can see why we'd sell with a compelling offer. Noni hasn't progressed his end product. Still only 23, so maybe he matures into the winger we sometimes see, but won't get that playing time at Chelsea.
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We are rapidly approaching the point where 23 is deemed to be the prime not developing potential

 
Didn't want to see Noni go last season, I still think he's got potential to be a good player, but you have to prove it. Can't keep squandering chances like he has done.

But at the same time none of our attackers set the world on fire last season did they? Like the whole attack was just a significant downgrade from the season before.

Time will tell if this is a bad move on our part, we'll see how he does at Arsenal which is looking very likely.

 
Would he be a similar mistake as KDB or Salah?

Not a chance.

This model we have now depends on selling players for profit and Noni is a perfect example. We signed him for around £30 million and despite what some think, he has developed. He’s now an England international. Neto and Estevao have higher ceilings though so get as much as we can for him and move on.

 
Would he be a similar mistake as KDB or Salah?

Not a chance.

This model we have now depends on selling players for profit and Noni is a perfect example. We signed him for around £30 million and despite what some think, he has developed. He’s now an England international. Neto and Estevao have higher ceilings though so get as much as we can for him and move on.
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Neto higher ceiling? That is a new one. Isn’t he already 25yrs, been playing top level football since 19yrs, and probably close to his ceiling.

This whole narrative he is our best winger is funny; his best league season ever was 5yrs when he was 20yrs (5G + 6A). How he ended up here is actually strange because 2 seasons ago he went a whole season with Zero goals & Zero assists.

 
you rate him as less valuable than Gittens (who has never done it in the EPL) and Elanga at forest? If those are going for £50-£55m - then Noni, who has proven he can score and create - in a team that doesnt create much - must be at least £70m
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But the directors have so many players to sell in a short period of time they have to drop the prices. Its a pattern that repeats and we don't seem to learn.

 
Him and his dad are all about the money. His old man is obsessed with it

He will double his wages at arsenal

Sell him

 
His best game was probably Madrid, worse Barcelona and he ranged from alright to good in the rest.
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Just watched the Gittens v Madrid highlights and there's nothing there to confidently say he's an upgrade on Madueke TBH. Tap in open net and then spent much of the game giving the ball away while the team lost 5-2.

Vert cautious with anyone we sign from the Bundesliga, we'll see in 6 months time.

 
Just watched the Gittens v Madrid highlights and there's nothing there to confidently say he's an upgrade on Madueke TBH. Tap in open net and then spent much of the game giving the ball away while the team lost 5-2.

Vert cautious with anyone we sign from the Bundesliga, we'll see in 6 months time.
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Haven't watched it again to be honest but from what I remember Gittens was easily the best player on the pitch until the manager self sabotaged and took him off, soon as their only real attacking threat went off they concede 5 goals.

He still has the same issues as Noni for sure with being selfish and decision making but from a technical perspective he is a better passer, has better shooting and is a better dribbler. Gittens is only 20 so I'm hoping there's still time to iron out things like decision making whereas with Noni I have a feeling what you see right now is what he is always going to be.

 
Haven't watched it again to be honest but from what I remember Gittens was easily the best player on the pitch until the manager self sabotaged and took him off, soon as their only real attacking threat went off they concede 5 goals.

He still has the same issues as Noni for sure with being selfish and decision making but from a technical perspective he is a better passer, has better shooting and is a better dribbler. Gittens is only 20 so I'm hoping there's still time to iron out things like decision making whereas with Noni I have a feeling what you see right now is what he is always going to be.
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Nope.. Malen was their best player in my opinion. Terrorised Madrid’s LB Mendy who is normally defensively solid all game, and notched a goal and an assist for Gittens’ goal.

Game ended 5-2 Madrid for all it’s worth; my biggest concern is the space he gets to run into the CL & the Bundesliga won’t be there against 80% of the league. An 8G + 3A output in the Bundesliga doesn’t really scream PL game changer IMO.

 
Just watched the Gittens v Madrid highlights and there's nothing there to confidently say he's an upgrade on Madueke TBH. Tap in open net and then spent much of the game giving the ball away while the team lost 5-2.

Vert cautious with anyone we sign from the Bundesliga, we'll see in 6 months time.
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My biggest issue is that our signings feel more like sidegrades rather than proper upgrades that will take us to a higher level.

 
No problem selling Noni, we've stockpiled enough winhers.

Big problem developing a player for two years and then selling him to a direct rival that will strengthen.
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Noni doesn’t strengthen Arsenal in the slightest.

 
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In Forests counter attacking I actually thought Elegna looked decent but he added little to other areas of the pitch. I certainly don’t rate him close to the value of Noni who ironically for he hasn’t developed at the rate he should have.

It’s interesting because most Arsenal supporters particularly on their forums are suggesting that Noni isn’t worth £40 million. That of course is a classic view from their supporters who no doubt view every one of their players as worth Zillions!

From what I read that he frustrates both players and staff at Chelsea as much as anything his attitude to training indeed his overall work ethic is said to be another issue.

Here’s a question. Is he better on their forums left ( where it’s rumoured he wants to play) or the left? If it’s the left he would at best be Sakas deputy. On their forums right he probably is slightly better than Martinelli

You then have to question is he ahead of our other wide players. He does offer an option but as we all know players will be leaving and my guess is any £50 + million that would be probably close to fair value .

 
Noni doesn’t strengthen Arsenal in the slightest.
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Starting 11 questionable but squad wise they don’t have decent cover for Saka who by virtue of that is overplayed and that fact was one of reason he was out injured for so long. On their forums opposite flank I actually think he offers a far better option to Martenelli

 
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