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A couple of months ago (more than a couple, probably about a year or two) I posted a thread on the topic in question and a debate ensued as to whether there was a legitimate case as to whether there was an inherent bias against Chelsea in the media, many agreed and some said it was paranoia as all teams felt their team was harshly criticised by the media? Today I saw 3 Liverpool players who should have been sent off, and pundits/journalists laughing and joking about the Suarez incident. The BBC headline reads "Suarez apologises for Ivanovic 'bite'". The BBC clearly siding with Suarez and almost taking an apologetic stance on what was a grotesque incident.

Want to know what the headline was after Hazard's incident at Swansea? "Hazard kicks ballboy". Not only factually misleading and inaccurate but also no mention of Hazard's reconciliation with the ballboy and Swansea officials afterwards. 

I know it can't be me being paranoid when non-Chelsea fans tell me there is a bias against us as well.

For the doubters amongst you can I ask you one thing:

1. If Arsenal/United/Liverpool/Spurs had won the Champions League having been 2-0 down at Barca and down to 10 men (drawing 2-2) and beating Bayern in their own back yard with key players absent, do you think the style of football would have been questioned?

2. If John Terry had bitten the arm of a Liverpool player do you think pundits would be laughing & joking with journalists urging the FA not to give a lengthy ban?

3. Do you think Didier Drogba would have received at least one player of the month award if he played for any other club?

4. Do you think there would have been an investigation into Roman Abramovich's background/wealth if he had acquired Man Utd, Liverpool or even Spurs?

5. Do you think any other club would have been labelled "boring" having just set a record for points and clean sheets in a 38 game season?

6. Do you think Liverpool fans would be blamed for their teams performances if Gary Neville became their manager and was proven to be inept? (or Spurs fans if Tony Adams became their manager)

7. If United or Liverpool had been on the receiving end of Ovrebo how do you think the media would have reacted? (Bear in mind the outrage at the Nani red - which was correct IMO)

When Drogba scored that offside goal at Old Trafford I watched Sky Sports replay it every day for four times an hour until the midweek games on the Tuesday and site it as "the reason Chelsea will win the title" despite us being in control and United themselves have a handball goal awarded. History was effectively allowed to be re-written. That week we benefitted from a decision against Bolton and a decision against Villa in the FA Cup semi. Sky would not let it go, they put a collage of video clips highlighting our "luck" and the key decisions that went for us, until a decision went against us, that was against Spurs in a 2-1 defeat.

The FA bent their own rules and undermined a court of law to ban a Chelsea player, the media did not even kick up a fuss, they actually went a step further and condemned the FA for not making the ban longer. The FA gave us a suspended 3 point penalty for the Ashley Cole affair with Arsenal chairman and FA chairman David Dein conducting contract talks, not once did the media scrutinise the obvious conflict of interests. FIFA tried to put a transfer embargo on us and the media couldn't wait to twist the knife, when vindicated there was no acknowledgement, it was just "Roman paid FIFA"

If people want to live in blissful ignorance of the bias that's fine but I refuse to.

 
The mail made a huge thing of jt not shaking a mans hand a few days ago, be interesting to see there take on suarez.

 
To be fair Souness and Redknapp were both appalled by the Suarez bite today, although I got the impression that was more because they were worried about Liverpools reputation, then for Brana's possible tetnus issues.

But I take your point...and I agree with it, which is why winning the CL last year was so brilliant, it must have upset an awful lot of people.

However being reduced wrongly to nine men in two consecutive seasons and both of those games ending in controversy and rancour have badly affected our clug, and although we've had the press baying for Chelsea's blood, the lack of support over Ovrebo, the snide digs are all water off a ducks back, I'm more concerned about Refs and the FA's bias against us than I am about some hack writing snide and inacurate pieces about us.

 
Myles, quick question. point 3, are you saying drogba never won player of the month when he was at chelsea?? incredible if thats true, or maybe i just misinterpreted the point

 
Myles_91 said:
A couple of months ago (more than a couple, probably about a year or two) I posted a thread on the topic in question and a debate ensued as to whether there was a legitimate case as to whether there was an inherent bias against Chelsea in the media, many agreed and some said it was paranoia as all teams felt their team was harshly criticised by the media? Today I saw 3 Liverpool players who should have been sent off, and pundits/journalists laughing and joking about the Suarez incident. The BBC headline reads "Suarez apologises for Ivanovic 'bite'". The BBC clearly siding with Suarez and almost taking an apologetic stance on what was a grotesque incident.

Want to know what the headline was after Hazard's incident at Swansea? "Hazard kicks ballboy". Not only factually misleading and inaccurate but also no mention of Hazard's reconciliation with the ballboy and Swansea officials afterwards.

I know it can't be me being paranoid when non-Chelsea fans tell me there is a bias against us as well.

For the doubters amongst you can I ask you one thing:

1. If Arsenal/United/Liverpool/Spurs had won the Champions League having been 2-0 down at Barca and down to 10 men (drawing 2-2) and beating Bayern in their own back yard with key players absent, do you think the style of football would have been questioned?

2. If John Terry had bitten the arm of a Liverpool player do you think pundits would be laughing & joking with journalists urging the FA not to give a lengthy ban?

3. Do you think Didier Drogba would have received at least one player of the month award if he played for any other club?

4. Do you think there would have been an investigation into Roman Abramovich's background/wealth if he had acquired Man Utd, Liverpool or even Spurs?

5. Do you think any other club would have been labelled "boring" having just set a record for points and clean sheets in a 38 game season?

6. Do you think Liverpool fans would be blamed for their teams performances if Gary Neville became their manager and was proven to be inept? (or Spurs fans if Tony Adams became their manager)

7. If United or Liverpool had been on the receiving end of Ovrebo how do you think the media would have reacted? (Bear in mind the outrage at the Nani red - which was correct IMO)

When Drogba scored that offside goal at Old Trafford I watched Sky Sports replay it every day for four times an hour until the midweek games on the Tuesday and site it as "the reason Chelsea will win the title" despite us being in control and United themselves have a handball goal awarded. History was effectively allowed to be re-written. That week we benefitted from a decision against Bolton and a decision against Villa in the FA Cup semi. Sky would not let it go, they put a collage of video clips highlighting our "luck" and the key decisions that went for us, until a decision went against us, that was against Spurs in a 2-1 defeat.

The FA bent their own rules and undermined a court of law to ban a Chelsea player, the media did not even kick up a fuss, they actually went a step further and condemned the FA for not making the ban longer. The FA gave us a suspended 3 point penalty for the Ashley Cole affair with Arsenal chairman and FA chairman David Dein conducting contract talks, not once did the media scrutinise the obvious conflict of interests. FIFA tried to put a transfer embargo on us and the media couldn't wait to twist the knife, when vindicated there was no acknowledgement, it was just "Roman paid FIFA"

If people want to live in blissful ignorance of the bias that's fine but I refuse to.
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Good post Myles I'm don't forget last weeks semi final.

 
Coxy15 said:
Myles, quick question. point 3, are you saying drogba never won player of the month when he was at chelsea?? incredible if thats true, or maybe i just misinterpreted the point
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Drogba never once won player of the month at Chelsea. What's worse is that from October 2005- August 2008 no Chelsea player won POTM despite 1st and two 2nd place finishes.

History has also been re-written, people forget that Jose was not liked by the media until he left Chelsea. Only won MOTM 3 times. By the time he left, Benitez had won it the same amount of times with no league titles to show for it.

 
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You come across as a very angry and paranoid young man Myles, which I'm sure you are not.

Perhaps you need to refocus your energies - it's just a game after all!

Ps - I can't work out if point 3 is serious or not

 
We are the most scrutinised club and it does seem like the media resent the club probably for its new found wealth.

We won the Champions League the hard way, not luck. The culture now is to jump on any indiscretion and run with it like school kids.

Don't know where they get boring from (Couldn't think of anything else, I suppose).

If we continue to win the respect will come.

 
bjd said:
You come across as a very angry and paranoid young man Myles, which I'm sure you are not.

Perhaps you need to refocus your energies - it's just a game after all!

Ps - I can't work out if point 3 is serious or not
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I'm not paranoid but I base my thoughts re: this on two old adages.

1. There is no such thing as coincidence

2. Paranoia is when you have all the facts

When something repeatedly happens, it can't be a coincidence. Southampton were praised for chanting Nigel Adkins name in their first game after his sacking yet Chelsea fans criticised for chanting RDM's on the 16th minute ( a man that meant so much to this football club because of 97 and Munich). Man Utd players surrounded Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir and were "right to do so" yet it's disgraceful scenes when Chelsea do it.

I wasn't going to drag this up but how's this for paranoia? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3079258/Moat-was-a-legend-Id-never-met-him-but-I-loved-him.html

"Theresa, wearing a Chelsea shirt bearing the badge of the Headhunters football thugs" 

Multiple murderer and a man who shot at a Police Officer is indirectly and subtly used to character assassinate Chelsea FC

 
I always point to the same example ..

Gigsy's 100th goal for Utd, special build up program's on sky, is or isn't he going to do every week on BBC ... And when he finally does it an hour special sky along with some front page headlines.

Lampard does it in half the time, 3rd item on the sports news and that was only because he wrote something on his t shirt.

And hardly a snitch when he did his 200 just about if he leaves the club or not.

Without a doubt bias to me, maybe I am paranoid

 
Just had a quick look on the NewsNow feed and found this.

n the last half-hour
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifLiverpool salvage a point against Chelsea on Rafa’s returnAnfield Online 23:40
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Villas-Boas eyes Chelsea 'decider' Sportal Australia 23:39
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifSam Wallace: One man is responsible for the trashing of John Terry's reputation – himself The Independent 23:34
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifWhat we learned this weekend: Torres might be glad villain Suarez stole... Daily Mail 23:29
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifRodgers says nobody is bigger than Liverpool with Suarez future in doubt... Daily Mail 23:29
 
I haven't bothered reading the article, but in despite what's happened today, Sam Wallace seems to consider another attack on John Terry is required.
 
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I follow him on Twitter, i forgot to unfollow him, he's a plain boring tweeter.Spurs fan Martin Lipton is better than him and that's saying something.

 
we just have to embrace the anti-Chelsea media, they hate us because we are successful.

if Abramovich had bought Newcastle who had gone on to win the Champions League and several Premier Leagues jealous United/Arsenal supporting Journos would be writing the same trash about them. 

Id rather they found stupid reasons to write stupid articles about us because were successful than winning nothing with nothing to talk about

 
It's not the media that bothers me, it's the Anti-Chelsea refereeing that actually affects us and royally pisses me off.

 
Scooby Blue said:
Just had a quick look on the NewsNow feed and found this.

n the last half-hour
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifLiverpool salvage a point against Chelsea on Rafa’s returnAnfield Online 23:40
FAU.gif
Villas-Boas eyes Chelsea 'decider' Sportal Australia 23:39
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifSam Wallace: One man is responsible for the trashing of John Terry's reputation – himself The Independent 23:34
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifWhat we learned this weekend: Torres might be glad villain Suarez stole... Daily Mail 23:29
http://s.newsnow.net/f***.gifRodgers says nobody is bigger than Liverpool with Suarez future in doubt... Daily Mail 23:29
 
I haven't bothered reading the article, but in despite what's happened today, Sam Wallace seems to consider another attack on John Terry is required.
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Here's an unbelievable quote from that Wallace piece:

Unfortunately it was Terry who dragged the whole thing kicking and screaming back into the room. Yes, that thing. Racism, the independent regulatory commission verdict that Terry had not simply called Anton Ferdinand "a f****** black c***" by way of repeating a question. The same allegation he was, nonetheless, cleared of by a court in July working to a much lower burden of proof than the 62-page commission report.
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I had to read that last bit over and over to check I'd not misread it. It says the magistrate's court, when it cleared him, was working to a 'much lower burden of proof than the FA'.

Which is total, and utter, and complete bollox. The court cleared him because it could not prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt.

The FA found him guilty because it didn't have to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. The balance of probabilities was sufficient.

Our journos are such scumbags.

 
londonblue said:
we just have to embrace the anti-Chelsea media, they hate us because we are successful.

if Abramovich had bought Newcastle who had gone on to win the Champions League and several Premier Leagues jealous United/Arsenal supporting Journos would be writing the same trash about them. 

Id rather they found stupid reasons to write stupid articles about us because were successful than winning nothing with nothing to talk about
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Not sure I agree. There has always been a great affinity towards Newcastle due to this myth they've always been "Loyal" fans. Generally speaking, very few are begrudging when Northern clubs come into money. Northern grit v Flash Cockney. QPR have had their fair share (although some of it justifiable) of media vitriol this year. 

To be hated, you have to be disliked to begin with. Even under Bates, we were never really "liked" and in the latter years just viewed as the little underdog compared to Arsenal and United, but never much of a genuine threat to them therefore  the media didn't take much umbrage with us despite seeds of dislike with Bates and fanbase,

 
I was using Newcastle as an example as a club who, at the same time as Abramovich took over, were next to us in the league. But i take your Northern grit v flash cockney point

 
I used to read the papers a fair bit when i was younger, but because of the way they work i soon stopped. I don't think i have picked up a paper in 4-5 years. I just can't be fussed with them anymore, the media is evil it's as simple as that.

 
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