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You're right PK13 unless the free speech is untrue (slander libel), or incites hatred. In essence Stan the man has said I am in sympathy with the NF and so forth which I object to.

 
PloKoon13 said:
As much as I think that Collymore is an inexcusably stupid, arrogant fool who has no business in punditry, and as much as I would like to see him gone from football, I don't think this is a good idea.

It will be perceived as us trying to shut out people who have negative things to say about us, and in light of recent events, shunning someone who has been so vocal about racism in football (however misguidedly) will only serve to stoke the fire.

That's the beauty of free speech - everyone has the right to talk complete and utter nonsense, and we in turn have the right to call them idiots for doing so.
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That's a good point. This could easily be spun as "Chelsea/Rangers fans petition to silence prominent anti-racism campaigner Collymore". The fact that gobsh*tes like him tend to do more harm than good is immaterial.

 
Well they say empty vessels make the most noise, Collymore is living proof of that...

 
bluedave said:
That's a good point. This could easily be spun as "Chelsea/Rangers fans petition to silence prominent anti-racism campaigner Collymore". The fact that gobsh*tes like him tend to do more harm than good is immaterial.
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Exactly what it is, Collymore is not going to do any good at all, whatever he is suggesting sounds like a conspiracy theory of Chelsea and Rangers supporting racism and working together blah blah blah.

Like we have time to do such things, I guess we've made it a priority instead of winning the league, I guess we don't have any non white players in our team also Stan.

 
Droogba said:
You're right PK13 unless the free speech is untrue (slander libel), or incites hatred. In essence Stan the man has said I am in sympathy with the NF and so forth which I object to.
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That is true, but at the same time you have the freedom and the logistics to point that out to him and also to point out how much of an imbecilic hypocrite he is for tarring all Chelsea/Rangers fans with the same brush when any anti-racism philosophy is founded on not making untrue and vindictive generalisations.

bluedave said:
That's a good point. This could easily be spun as "Chelsea/Rangers fans petition to silence prominent anti-racism campaigner Collymore". The fact that gobsh*tes like him tend to do more harm than good is immaterial.
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Exactly, the last thing we want to do is paint him as a silenced hero or a martyr for the cause. Collymore is one of the biggest arseholes in football, he'll defeat his own cause as soon as he speaks out loud as everyone will recognise him as a complete idiot (as most people already do) and in this case quite possibly a liar.

It reminds me of that Bertrand Russell quote:

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

 
PloKoon13 said:
That is true, but at the same time you have the freedom and the logistics to point that out to him and also to point out how much of an imbecilic hypocrite he is for tarring all Chelsea/Rangers fans with the same brush when any anti-racism philosophy is founded on not making untrue and vindictive generalisations.

Exactly, the last thing we want to do is paint him as a silenced hero or a martyr for the cause. Collymore is one of the biggest arseholes in football, he'll defeat his own cause as soon as he speaks out loud as everyone will recognise him as a complete idiot (as most people already do) and in this case quite possibly a liar.

It reminds me of that Bertrand Russell quote:

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
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I think that is giving him too much credit. the vast majority of sane people will (hopefully) appreciate the fact that he is nothing more than an attention seeking gobsh*te. 

My leanings aside, most of his tweets are met with glee from celtic fans who now hold him in very, VERY high regard. The general consensus within the celtic support is that he is speaking the truth, outing all of us "racists" and fighting for equality. The irony is that all you have to do is google "celtic poppy shame" or "celtic sectarian" to immediately see that there are two sides to every coin. 

Stan selects certain things that he doesnt like, and then turns it into wafer thin political spin with absolutely no salient foundation. Instead of using his position to single out idiots and encourage people to identify those that were singing hate-songs or engaging in physical violence, he simply lashes out and brands the entire fanbase as being pro-BNP.

It just disappoints me. Looking forward to his anti chelsea / rangers rant on BT sport. Although in saying that there is no f**king way i will be tuning in to listen to that disturbed sh*t for brains talk bo**ocks and cause more trouble. 

collymore - more harm than good. pervert. 

 
An obnoxious loudmouth better known for beating the p*ss out of his girlfriend and his bizarre sexual fetishes than for anything he achieved on the pitch. Why any national broadcaster sees fit to employ him is beyond me.
 
He steals a living in the 'media'.

He needs publicity to promote himself, and he's pretty good at self-publicity (as well as self pity, unsurprising seeing as who he played for). Self publicity is supposedly better than no publicity and it's the 'oxygen' that feeds his career.

Starve him of the need to publicise himself, starve him of the 'oxygen' and his media career will die off. The less people that react, listen, call in and switch off the shows he's on, the quicker he'll be shown the door.

In my view the petition will fuel his fire, he'll play the victim and accuse us of racism etc. I was going to sign it, thought again and won't now.

A better way would be to email the stations he's on and tell them you're cancelling subscriptions, not using their advertisers products because of his views etc. That'd work better, in my view.

 
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Anyone dare challenge his view on Twatter.. he hits the block button more than he hit Ulrika.

 

 
Think he's an absolute twat and I must've missed the meeting where we forgave him for hitting a woman....and that's why I don't listen to him. Why anyone would listen to TalkSport I don't know and mhlower has it right. 

Don't give him the publicity of a petition because it's just what he wants. Ignore him. I guarantee you'll be a better person for not being part of his audience.

The man is an utter coward and an insecure one at that. 

 
He's been rehabilitated* I think he cited mental problems, the catch all for getting away with being a woman beating, dogging, coward....

*I never got the memo either

 
PloKoon13 said:
It reminds me of that Bertrand Russell quote:

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
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That's very true. I wasn't familiar with that quote but Bukowski said something very similar. I think it's safe to say that Russell got there first though:

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.â€

 
best bit is that he grew up a rangers fan. 

Quote from BBC:

"in a magazine interview for Rangers monthly last year, Collymore was asked about a previous transfer link with Celtic, only to astonishingly reveal "there was once talk about me going to CEltic. And, without being contentious, how on earth could I do it when my soft spot is - and always has been - for the blue half of Glasgow?""

The guy is a f**kING lunatic.

 
bluedave, I've never actually read any Bukowski. I do prefer the Russell version of the quote, although that may well just be because of the word 'cocksure', which is clearly not used enough today.

I found an interesting article about Collymore:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/mar/14/newsstory.sport

Obviously it doesn't absolve him of his various sins, but it certainly made me take a step back for a second. 

 
I'm really confused about him saying all Chelsea fans are racist, does that include our black fans?

 
Wow I just went to type Stan and it came out as Satan instead...

Anyway I'm sorry but I don't buy his contrition. If he had really learned from his past behaviour he surely wouldn't be so confrontational, nasty, biased and petulant...

Everyone can point to rough times especially in childhood (I know I can) He has had so many opportunities and is still getting them. The few times I've had the displeasure to hear him on the radio, he talks over people, won't let callers get a word in edgeways and is basically a nasty piece of work. He starts spats on Twitter and then blocks anyone who can out argue him (which is most people).

He then cries that he's being abused. He is right up there with John Aldridge in my book, in fact he's worse, as Aldo has never beaten a Woman up.

 
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What i can't fathom out is why there are so many journey man footballers who become pundits. Savage, Claridge, Collymore, Jason Roberts, All of them to a man talk absolute bo**ocks yet the two best pundits Neville and Carragher played in World Cups, Champions League etc coincidence?.

 
dkw said:
I'm really confused about him saying all Chelsea fans are racist, does that include our black fans?
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Pigeon-holing and making sweeping judgements about a whole group of people... isn't that really the same principle as racism?

 
Englishman said:
Pigeon-holing and making sweeping judgements about a whole group of people... isn't that really the same principle as racism?
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It's certainly a form of racism, or at least xenophobia. The fact us this idiot does more harm than good in the fight against racism. He trolls Twitter writing outrageous things to draw in the loons who abuse him, he retweets the abuse, creates a storm and rides the waves.
 
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