Emanalo The Problem
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ForeverCarefree
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He's right, you don't always get what you want.
But not getting Stones and signing a second rate player like Papy was taking the piss.
If we keep going after unobtainable players you have to question the wisdom of investing so much time and resources into pursuing them in the first place.
But not getting Stones and signing a second rate player like Papy was taking the piss.
If we keep going after unobtainable players you have to question the wisdom of investing so much time and resources into pursuing them in the first place.
Just because you don't always get what you want doesn't mean you shouldn't have a plan B.
Also, what about Vidal and Costa? They were available and he didn't notice. They're exactly what we need right now - much more than Stones.
Honestly, I just want this mug gone. The sooner the better.
Also, what about Vidal and Costa? They were available and he didn't notice. They're exactly what we need right now - much more than Stones.
Honestly, I just want this mug gone. The sooner the better.
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Maksimov
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If we had signed no one, people would have been livid because we didn't get a defender even though we needed one. It seemed pretty clear that Everton wasn't going to sell, so we should've been more active in looking for an alternative. Or perhaps there were none available... (no high profile defenders)
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Well Costa is a wide midfielder and we won the title at a canter with Hazard and Willian on the flanks plus brought in Pedro and Kennedy so I think it's harsh to say that was an obvious weak area especially since we added someone of Pedro's quality.
The central midfield I agree with, we were asking for trouble by not addressing it since the cracks started to appear after Christmas in the Cesc/Matic combination. Mikel and Ramires were both never going to be good enough while RLC is raw and untested.
Really? You bring the 'we won the league with [insert]' argument? Does that still work for you?
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Erm did you not see the part about the midfield?Costa wasn't a requirement since we brought in Pedro and added Kennedy and Traore too the mix.
Unless you think this is Champ manager and you can just have 5-6 top class wide men and keep them all happy.....
Fact was we had a championship winning squad that needed freshening up in certain areas, the wide position did get addition and of a very high standard so I'm struggling to see what you are on about with Costa....
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Kennedy and Traore aren't good enough (yet), while Pedro, well, could be better. Costa turned out to be a big hit for Bayern, making them forget about Robben. I'd expect a technical director to see that. He didn't.
Edit: Just to make it clear, it is not just a question of whether he brought someone in at all, but more importantly who he brought in. Sure, we have Traore, Kennedy and Pedro and yet we can't string together a decent attack against Stoke. I'd venture a guess that we would be better off with Costa.
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Maksimov
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No one can say for sure that Costa would've been a big hit in Premier League or more specifically a big hit at Chelsea. Costa is now playing for a winning team. That's not something you can say about Chelsea.
And who knows... Maybe he wasn't available TO US for one reason or another.
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It's just so bizarre that we went for the polar opposite of what John Stones is as the alternative.
It made us look armature in our transfer dealings this summer.
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This isn't freaking football manager. How does anyone know we didn't try to sign Costa or Vidal. They chose a bigger and better club, simple.
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Regarding the Costa wasn't required because of Pedro.
Don't forget Pedro was a last minute panic buy. That, to me, clearly shows that we didn't pass up Costa because we were going for Pedro but that they didn't think a player in that position was needed until after the season had already started. That's a transfer failure with a last second attempt at a quick fix, not a situation of prefering another player the whole time while recognizing the need.
Don't forget Pedro was a last minute panic buy. That, to me, clearly shows that we didn't pass up Costa because we were going for Pedro but that they didn't think a player in that position was needed until after the season had already started. That's a transfer failure with a last second attempt at a quick fix, not a situation of prefering another player the whole time while recognizing the need.
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Reading through some of these posts are unbelievable. On one hand Emanalo is to blame for openly trying to sign stones (although there is no real evidence of this). On the other hand he's being blamed for not signing 2 players that went to Bayern (yet again we don't know what goes on behind the scenes). Very strange that Emanalo is being used as a scapegoat. If we were riding high this conversation wouldn't be in progress.
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Oh you mean when the reporters asked them directly about Stones joining Chelsea? Hmmm wonder how those reporters knew exactly what question to ask.....
Yes, we didn't get Rooney and finished third..... but if we had a proper striker that season, we'd of won the title. So I would say there is a correlation, SAF would agree.
Btw, Everton didn't want to sell Rooney, Fellaini, Lescott, Arteta, Rodwell...well you get my point, right?
I expect him to understand the climate he needs to operate in. I think just about any poster on this board would know that offering Everton a bid that could appear derisory just weeks before the window closed would lead to certain failure, especially when it's fairly public. I won't rehash the details as its already been done in this thread.Probably could of had Stones at less than our final bid had we opened with a stronger bid and done so with more respect ( like giving them time to find a replacement and secure deals before everyone Jacks up a premium because they know they need a replacement and got a big payout). This 65mil is nonsense. Of course a poor negotiation leads to higher prices.
Numerous top notch midfielders moved for far less. It wasn't Pogba or bust.
Edit: Well, it shouldn't have been Pogba or bust.
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KonaKai Blue
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What top notch midfielders moved for far less?? Ones we had a realistic chance of signing. Someone like Vidal wasn't realistic