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Enrique or Nagelsmann?

Who would you pick?

  • Enrique

    Votes: 17 48.6%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 18 51.4%
  • Total voters
    35
Nagelsmann is the German Potter, in that he adopts a similar style of possession play and changes his ideas, and like Potter, his personality is someone who wants to be ‘friendly’ and Mr nice guy with everyone as reported from Bayern insiders. 

Enrique leans towards a compact squad with a fixed first 11, he’d have players with clear outlined roles benefitting from the consistency of those around them (great coach for the impending fire sale); he only messed around a bit at Spain due to the transitional period they’re in as a national team. Enrique would utilise our big assets down to the ground, like Mudryk, as he needs to be a touchline winger in a 433, there is no other way he can play.

Like with Sarri, I’m convinced we would see his ideas implemented almost instantly in terms of sequences of play. We lack identity (Nagelsmann likes to tinker), Enrique has the nous to implement discernible patterns of play from the offset, he’s an elite coach but with an imperfect CV, of which doesn’t tell the whole story, the time spent outside club football can only add to his hunger and ambition… Nagelsmann is a wounded animal right now. 

You can see why the board need time to think this one over as the market has arguably never been worse for managers, or at least ‘clear’ in regards to absolute standouts; the waters are muddy.. question marks over everyone. We definitely need to forget about this whole ‘Project’ manger thing though, especially as UCL football will be ‘do or die’ financially next season.

 
I'm not sure about either, but if I had to pick, then I would go with Enrique. I just don't think now is the time for Nagelsmann, he's too young and I am not sure he is the manager to snap us out of this mess. Enrique has been at the top level for a while now, I would like to think that he could at least steady us and not let us turn into a disaster that we can't return from.

 
Term_X said:
Nagelsmann is the German Potter, in that he adopts a similar style of possession play and changes his ideas, and like Potter, his personality is someone who wants to be ‘friendly’ and Mr nice guy with everyone as reported from Bayern insiders. 

Enrique leans towards a compact squad with a fixed first 11, he’d have players with clear outlined roles benefitting from the consistency of those around them (great coach for the impending fire sale); he only messed around a bit at Spain due to the transitional period they’re in as a national team. Enrique would utilise our big assets down to the ground, like Mudryk, as he needs to be a touchline winger in a 433, there is no other way he can play.

Like with Sarri, I’m convinced we would see his ideas implemented almost instantly in terms of sequences of play. We lack identity (Nagelsmann likes to tinker), Enrique has the nous to implement discernible patterns of play from the offset, he’s an elite coach but with an imperfect CV, of which doesn’t tell the whole story, the time spent outside club football can only add to his hunger and ambition… Nagelsmann is a wounded animal right now. 

You can see why the board need time to think this one over as the market has arguably never been worse for managers, or at least ‘clear’ in regards to absolute standouts; the waters are muddy.. question marks over everyone. We definitely need to forget about this whole ‘Project’ manger thing though, especially as UCL football will be ‘do or die’ financially next season.
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Not sure I agree with the first two lines, Nagelsmann's style of football is far from possession. He is very much a manager that lives off the "high press" game similar to Klopp's Dortmund and Liverpool. And I've never heard anything about him being a 'nice guy', the man literally trashed another team in a press conference. Every time people criticize Nagelsmann they call him the German Potter and I fail to see any comparisons or evidence.

 
Enrique is more experienced, achieved more, handled large egos/names, plays an expressive and entertaining style of football. He is also, from reports I've read, eager to join us. For me it's a no brainer. Give Enrique the job, give him time, get him the players he needs (within reason) and let him build something here. City gave Pep time, this is what we would have to do with someone like Enrique. I do believe the owners will give time to the right man. I think they would have learned a hard lesson this season and they will focus on building a foundation with the right man in charge. 

 
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enigma said:
Enrique is more experienced, achieved more, handled large egos/names, plays an expressive and entertaining style of football. He is also, from reports I've read, eager to join us. For me it's a no brainer. Give Enrique the job, give him time, get him the players he needs (within reason) and let him build something here. City gave Pep time, this is what we would have to do with someone like Enrique. I do believe the owners will give time to the right man. I think they would have learned a hard lesson this season and they will focus on building a foundation with the right man in charge. 
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Issue with Enrique is that the team is currently ready made for Nagelsmann. (Wingbacks, attacking mids/CFs, no traditional DMs,). Enrique would likely need a good overhaul to establish the team to his image. Players like Chilwell and Nkunku I struggle to see where they will fit also. 

It's by no means an easy decision which is why I feel a little more comfortable it isn't being rushed. Both have their positives and I will ultimately respect who they bring in after a lot of forethought. 

 
Frankie8Lampard said:
Not sure I agree with the first two lines, Nagelsmann's style of football is far from possession. He is very much a manager that lives off the "high press" game similar to Klopp's Dortmund and Liverpool. And I've never heard anything about him being a 'nice guy', the man literally trashed another team in a press conference. Every time people criticize Nagelsmann they call him the German Potter and I fail to see any comparisons or evidence.
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I suppose in the Bundesliga, Bayern will have 60/70% of the ball average against the farmers. His philosophies are rather abstract at least when you compare him to Enrique, if you take a gander at Bayern forums some weeks they couldn’t tell you what style of football they were playing and that’s how we felt under Potter on match day threads. Ultimately, he’s a tinker-man and that’s where the comparisons come from, Enrique has a plan A and if that isn’t working, it’s then down to in-game management not plan B.  

Let’s forget about personality stuff because we’ll never truly know that, it’s speculation, some reports were even saying he pissed off the dressing room anyway once he started dating the Bild reporter. However, he’s just been sacked in a very public way and the Chelsea dressing room are aware Bayern would rather have our ex Tuchel than give Nagelsmann more time; he’s a wounded animal. 

 
Apparently, unlike Nagelsmann, Enrique wanted to start right away and has been left disappointed with us that we chose to go with Lamps instead. He may not be an option now 

 
axman2526 said:
Apparently, unlike Nagelsmann, Enrique wanted to start right away and has been left disappointed with us that we chose to go with Lamps instead. He may not be an option now 
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Have doubts on this rumor. No way we hear this if we won every game under Lampard. 
 

Someone reputable also said Enrique would rather start in the summer. 

 
Sconnie Blue said:
Issue with Enrique is that the team is currently ready made for Nagelsmann. (Wingbacks, attacking mids/CFs, no traditional DMs,). Enrique would likely need a good overhaul to establish the team to his image. Players like Chilwell and Nkunku I struggle to see where they will fit also. 

It's by no means an easy decision which is why I feel a little more comfortable it isn't being rushed. Both have their positives and I will ultimately respect who they bring in after a lot of forethought. 
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Another reason why the signing of Nkunku is ridiculous, nothing against the player but it just further highlights how directionless we are, insane decision; just a headache for whoever comes in now. In regards to the decision making process that concerns me is ‘talk is cheap’, our guys are susceptible to being hoodwinked. I’m still bracing myself for the Jorge Mendes sales pitch for that Felix fraud and the subsequent jubilation and hysterics from Atletico Madrid once they realise Boehly and co have fell for it.

 
Term_X said:
Another reason why the signing of Nkunku is ridiculous, nothing against the player but it just further highlights how directionless we are, insane decision; just a headache for whoever comes in now. In regards to the decision making process that concerns me is ‘talk is cheap’, our guys are susceptible to being hoodwinked. I’m still bracing myself for the Jorge Mendes sales pitch for that Felix fraud and the subsequent jubilation and hysterics from Atletico Madrid once they realise Boehly and co have fell for it.
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Club still hasn’t announced Nkunku so maybe another Fekir situation. 

 
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Sconnie Blue said:
Club still hasn’t announced Nkunku so maybe another Fekir situation. 
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Nkunku was done last year 100% Fabrizo has confirmed multiple times. The only logical reason I can think of why it hadn't been announced is to allow him a chance to say goodbye and to focus on this season without constant distractions i.e questions about us

 
LongtimerLurker said:
Nkunku was done last year 100% Fabrizo has confirmed multiple times. The only logical reason I can think of why it hadn't been announced is to allow him a chance to say goodbye and to focus on this season without constant distractions i.e questions about us
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Then why was Gusto announced?

 
Enrique for me, even if we don't return to winning ways we perhaps need a 'Sarri type' who can instill an expansive possession-based style of play on the team. Nagelsmann I feel is just the German Graham Potter.

 
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Luis Enriques achievements are somewhat dubious. Your mums could win the league if they had peak Messi, peak Neymar and peak Suarez at their disposal.

 
SwedishEntity said:
Luis Enriques achievements are somewhat dubious. Your mums could win the league if they had peak Messi, peak Neymar and peak Suarez at their disposal.
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And yet Johan Cryuff deemed it impossible for those three to effectively work together. Particularly when Enrique decided to remove Messi from his false 9 role. 

 
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