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Fredy Guarin - is he any good?

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No he isn't good for Chelsea; Inter would have no trouble at all replacing him. 

 
If we lose Ramires for more than 2 or 3 weeks then were f**ked. Id like us to have a dynamic midfielder to replace him.

 
We have plenty of options, but Jose isn;t using them.

 
Must admit I haven't watch much since he joined Inter. But I seem to remember him essentially playing the Ramires shuttler role at Porto. We already have one of those. We need someone to be the Moutinho equivalent from that Porto team.

 
De Bruyne can play CM.

Oscar could play CM allowing Mata, Hazard and either Shurrle/Willian to play up top.

Essien could play in a more defensive role, allowing Lampard & Ramires to play further forward, rather than playing with 2 holding midfielders, which is a crap system anyway.

Luiz could play in DM

Van Ginkel will be an option next year when he's back from injury

Chalobah could be given a chance in DM

Mikel could sit in DM, allowing Lampard & Ramires, or Oscar & Ramires, or KDB & Oscar, or KDB and Ramires, or KDB and Lampard, or Lampard & Essien, or KDB & Essien, or any combination of CMs to play slightly ahead.

But yes, let's buy ANOTHER player instead of utilising who we have.

 
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De Bruyne can play CM. he is off in Jan

Oscar could play CM nope! he is a number 10 Essien could play in a more defensive role, allowing Lampard & Ramires to play further forward, rather than playing with 2 holding midfielders, which is a crap system anyway. i agree its a crap system BUT thats how our squad is set up. Unless we buy other players we have to play 4-2-3-1.

Luiz could play in DM He could play DM but not very well. Also he may not want to play DM

Van Ginkel will be an option next year when he's back from injury well that doesnt help us now does it

Chalobah could be given a chance in DM

Mikel could sit in DM, allowing Lampard & Ramires, or Oscar & Ramires, or KDB & Oscar, or KDB and Ramires, or KDB and Lampard, or Lampard & Essien, or KDB & Essien, or any combination of CMs to play slightly ahead. if Chalobah was ready he would be with us and not on loan in the championship this season

But yes, let's buy ANOTHER player instead of utilising who we have.
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You say KDB is off in Jan.. Why? Because he's not being given a chance... Because Jose is not using the players he has available to him.

Oscar could easily play deeper, he puts in a lot of work and isn't scared of a tackle. You can't just pidgeonhole someone in 1 position and refuse to entertain the psosibility that as an international footballer, they might.. just might, be able to play in another position.

Luiz can play it better than Mikel can.

 
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You say KDB is off in Jan.. Why? Because he's not being given a chance... Because Jose is not using the players he has available to him.

Oscar could easily play deeper, he puts in a lot of work and isn't scared of a tackle. You can't just pidgeonhole someone in 1 position and refuse to entertain the psosibility that as an international footballer, they might.. just might, be able to play in another position.

Luiz can play it better than Mikel can.
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I can safely say that KDB is off in Jan because he wants to play and wants to be selected for the world cup.

Im sure Oscar could play deeper, im sure Oscar is so talented that he could play anywhere BUT he doesnt. He plays the number 10 role. Jose has already said this. Its all well and good us fans saying i think this player should play here or there but the fact is none of us are the manager of Chelsea FC. Jose sees these players everyday. He trains them so he knows where is best to play them. Oscar may be a brilliant CM on your Football manager game but this is real life we are talking about.

Im not a fan of Mikel as im sure people know on here but He has proved he is a better DM than Luiz.

Imo people want to move Luiz up the field because it would limit the risk of him making mistakes. The problem is he still would make mistakes and would get caught out of position.

 
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I can safely say that KDB is off in Jan because he wants to play and wants to be selected for the world cup.

Im sure Oscar could play deeper, im sure Oscar is so talented that he could play anywhere BUT he doesnt. He plays the number 10 role. Jose has already said this. Its all well and good us fans saying i think this player should play here or there but the fact is none of us are the manager of Chelsea FC. Jose sees these players everyday. He trains them so he knows where is best to play them. Oscar may be a brilliant CM on your Football manager game but this is real life we are talking about.

Im not a fan of Mikel as im sure people know on here but He has proved he is a better DM than Luiz.

Imo people want to move Luiz up the field because it would limit the risk of him making mistakes. The problem is he still would make mistakes and would get caught out of position.
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I have no disagreed with saying KDB will leave, I think he will. But giving the reasons for him leaving as him wanting to play games, just further highlights that Jose is not making the most of our squad. KDB is a very good player and could easily be getting games for us, but Jose won;t play him.

I don't see what football manager games have to do with this conversation? They do seem to get brought up a lot though, I assume it's some attempt to demean someone's opinion? (For the record, I have no idea how good Oscar is in CM on football manager, I only play non-league teams).

I can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of games Mikel has played at DM and looked significantly better than what Luiz can offer, and that's covering his whole career at Chelsea.

He may do, but he would still offer us a more direct switch from defence to attack than Mikel or Essien can do.

 
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You say KDB is off in Jan.. Why? Because he's not being given a chance... Because Jose is not using the players he has available to him.

Oscar could easily play deeper, he puts in a lot of work and isn't scared of a tackle. You can't just pidgeonhole someone in 1 position and refuse to entertain the psosibility that as an international footballer, they might.. just might, be able to play in another position.

Luiz can play it better than Mikel can.
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Come on mate, we are dying for some extra bodies in CM. Dying. Its totally affecting how this team plays, and how Jose wants this team to play. Jose sees these players every day, he wouldve tried some somebody else if he thought they were up to it.

 
We certainly could do with improving our midfield options, Mikel has been rubbish the last five or so games he has played and our over reliance on Ramires is embarrassing

 
Problem is Guarin is essentially another Ramires; another box to box player which won't make any sense, there are decent DMs out there in the market.

 
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