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Ivanovic - The "Groundhog Day" Thread

Be nice for Aina but realistically he will be doing well if he's part of the squad this season.

When was the last time a youngster came in and made a position his own from the off?

 
evissy said:
Although Aina looks impressive he still has miles to go to even reach bad-branna's level.

We'll just have to wait and see...
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Not sure about that, Aina looks quality at RB and LB.

 
There's nothing wrong with Ivan at the moment, he's back to his normal performance level, he was never great at crossing. I think 'Groundhog day' is over.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Can't wait for the day Ivanovic manages to beat the first man from a cross.
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This is a Chelsea problem, not just Ivanovic.

Everyone who takes corners (Fab/Willian and now Hazard) lolly the ball into the first man on a regular basis.  We have some seriously good headers of the ball but we have been rather deficient in crossing for a few years now.

 
sonic90 said:
There's nothing wrong with Ivan at the moment, he's back to his normal performance level, he was never great at crossing. I think 'Groundhog day' is over.
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Getting done so easily by a 32 year old full back (holebas) doesn't bode well, to be honest.

 
He was the only player trying to create something against Watford. Had no problems defensively. It is all due to our midfield-cover.

 
evissy said:
He was the only player trying to create something against Watford. Had no problems defensively. It is all due to our midfield-cover.
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The midfield cover has been fine for the first 2 games. They can't be blamed for Ivanovic misplacing passes, Ivanovic moving into the CB position when he is supposed to be a full back, Ivanovic not closing players down, Ivanovic letting wingers get crosses in and Ivanovic being completely at fault for Watford's goal on Saturday.

 
Ivan is the one variable that is going to crystalise my opinion on Conte. Although he won't have seen him live last season, I would trust that he has done his homework properly and analysed his performances.

Now that he has had a chance to see him at close quarters I would hope he has reached a decision. And the decision I would hope he has reached is that Ivan, Legend though he is, is obviously well past his sell by date and needs to be replaced ASAP for the future good of the team.

 
he's started better than last season, and he's a fighter, but IMO we're more in need of a fullback than any other position in the squad.

doesn't deserve the abuse he gets because his legs have gone though.

 
Play him as a CB or don't play him at all....tits at trying to play RWB......always late to get back in position, strolls or has a slight jog back when an attack breaks down, goes far to forward far too often and then decides to stay up finding himself in the opponents box while they are beginning a break away. Yes he gets the odd goal now and then but not enough to justify playing him week in and week out;  Dave rarely gets caught up field like Ivan does..... get another RB or LB in and stop pissing around; play him in the middle of the back four which temporarily fixes the CB problem.   

 
just said:
Ivan is the one variable that is going to crystalise my opinion on Conte. Although he won't have seen him live last season, I would trust that he has done his homework properly and analysed his performances.

Now that he has had a chance to see him at close quarters I would hope he has reached a decision. And the decision I would hope he has reached is that Ivan, Legend though he is, is obviously well past his sell by date and needs to be replaced ASAP for the future good of the team.
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Ivan should not be in the first team at RB or CB. Squad player in his last season yes. First team no way specially when Zouma returns.

 
g3.7 said:
he's started better than last season, and he's a fighter, but IMO we're more in need of a fullback than any other position in the squad.

doesn't deserve the abuse he gets because his legs have gone though.
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Everything I've seen of ainia suggests he can very quickly grow in to the role

 
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