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Ivanovic - The "Groundhog Day" Thread

We have 2 quality right backs at Chelsea in Azpi and Aina but continue to play him there., so frustrating.

 
Jonty said:
Truly was groundhog day today, third season in a row where we've splashed the cash for an expensive full back to replace him, only for him to inexplicably continue to play virtually every minute.
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Hasn't been any reason not to play him up until tonight, 4 goals conceded in two games is now justification for changing up the defence.

Would like to see what Alonso can do because if nothing else I want to see some natural width down the left to help stretch play.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Hasn't been any reason not to play him up until tonight, 4 goals conceded in two games is now justification for changing up the defence.

Would like to see what Alonso can do because if nothing else I want to see some natural width down the left to help stretch play.
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Thought he was poor against Watford and Swansea, even in the other 2 games where he wasn't bad it's not as if he was lighting up the match, it's evident even on his better days that the team as a whole would benefit by having some proper width outside Hazard on the left.

 
Jonty said:
Thought he was poor against Watford and Swansea, even in the other 2 games where he wasn't bad it's not as if he was lighting up the match, it's evident even on his better days that the team as a whole would benefit by having some proper width outside Hazard on the left.
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I sort of meant the performance of the team as a whole has been good up until tonight.

Even Swansea we played well overall.

Tonight was a bad performance and the back four looks weak, not sure if Conte will look to change so much so soon but I think it needs addressing.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
I sort of meant the performance of the team as a whole has been good up until tonight.

Even Swansea we played well overall.

Tonight was a bad performance and the back four looks weak, not sure if Conte will look to change so much so soon but I think it needs addressing.
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Fair point there was no incentive to change when we were winning games, this is really our first chance to see whether Conte is going to drop out of form players or try to play them back into form.

 
Jonty said:
Fair point there was no incentive to change when we were winning games, this is really our first chance to see whether Conte is going to drop out of form players or try to play them back into form.
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Well the players he can bring in are his signings, really you'd like to think he's looking to establish those players in his team ahead of an aging player like Ivanovic who is in the last year of their contract.

 
Well, i can't say i'm surprised by tonight's performance. Chelsea fans predicted it, opposition fans predicted it, you could just tell that Ivanovic was going to struggle tonight. It wasn't just Chelsea fans who could see he was going to struggle tonight, opposition fans could see it too. Liverpool targeted our RB position and it paid off for them, he just made everything so easy for them. I just can't understand how every coach at Chelsea can't see what every opposition coach can see. Ivanovic is done, he's been a great player for us, but he has looked done since the second half of our last title winning season. 

He's doesn't even defend anymore, how many times tonight did he leave that RB spot for someone else to cover for him ? it was pretty much the whole of the first half. He doesn't close wingers down either. He just backs off into our penalty area and let's the opposition winger get the ball into the area.

I'm just so confused right now, it's baffling that our coach's can't see something that everybody else can see.

I hate moaning about Ivanovic so much because he has given us so much to be happy about over the years, but i can't lie to myself and pretend that something is not happening. We can all see the same problems happening game after game with Ivanovic.

 
I get everyone says he's not been as bad this year, but we've not been as bad as a team but when we're backs to the walls, unfortunately he's not got it anymore I'm afraid.

like @Scott Harris I feel bad complaining about him a lot because of how great a servant he's been, but if we want to get back up challenging, he has to go if we're to progress.

 
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unless alonso suffered an injury on tuesday, if ivan starts yet again against arse i'm 100% convinced he has some serious junk on roman,

three managers now seems like they are unable to see ivan is completely shot and way past his expiry date, it's just truly mind boggling

 
Am more keen to see Oscar and Matic on the bench than Ivanovic. Ivanovic and our defence as a whole isn't as worse as last season. I think the reason we are struggling defensively is because the manager has chosen to always play a defensive minded team in all matches instead of an attacking team. As a result the opposing team don't really focus on how to defend against us but how to find a way past our defensive squad.

 
He cant deal with the pacey teams at all now, we have to address this ASAP

 
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The longer this goes on the more and more it starts to resemble the Torres saga.

 
I did worry about about Ivanovic against Liverpool. I worry just as much if not more against Arsenal. In my opinion Ivan has to be dropped, his the weak link and the opposition will target him.

 
wallosh said:
Am more keen to see Oscar and Matic on the bench than Ivanovic. Ivanovic and our defence as a whole isn't as worse as last season. I think the reason we are struggling defensively is because the manager has chosen to always play a defensive minded team in all matches instead of an attacking team. As a result the opposing team don't really focus on how to defend against us but how to find a way past our defensive squad.
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Imagine being more keen to see Matic be benched than Ivanovic. I respect your opinion but that's an absurd take. 

 
Ivanovic is apparently a  favourite of the owner

Think that connection is worth noting when he perplexingly plays week in week out despite being as other posters have stated the weakest 

part of the back 4, surprising when other options are available to takeover that position............loyalty valued over performance, ah the Russian is

sentimental after all. 

 
General said:
Ivanovic is apparently a  favourite of the owner

Think that connection is worth noting when he perplexingly plays week in week out despite being as other posters have stated the weakest 

part of the back 4, surprising when other options are available to takeover that position............loyalty valued over performance, ah the Russian is

sentimental after all. 
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You've got it. Now Luiz is back from nowhere, another favourite.

 
Lets hope Aina or Azpi plays RB agains't Leicester and Alonso at LB and both have great games so Ivanovic might be dropped for Arsenal.

 
jack_super_class said:
Lets hope Aina or Azpi plays RB agains't Leicester and Alonso at LB and both have great games so Ivanovic might be dropped for Arsenal.
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But we've seen it before over the last couple of years.

Luis, Baba, Bertrand have all came in, made the defence look better, more balanced and then we revert to type the next game.

Sounds harsh but hopefully Ivanovic doesn't get a new contract this summer because it's the only way I think we can move on and evolve.

 
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