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In a flat white coffee the milk should be cold and should not be disgustingly frothy.

 
I disagree. the milk should be steamed but then poured over one or two shots of espresso. and you avoid pouring the actual froth into the cup.

 
Good coffee wouldnt have milk in it at all, dilutes the flavour. Incidentally I got some coffee for xmas, kopi luwak. The one that a civet sh*ts out.

 
Steamed milk? yuck! No milk at all or the tiniest drop of cold milk .. not sure about this civet sh*t stiff, though!

 
Good coffee wouldnt have milk in it at all, dilutes the flavour. Incidentally I got some coffee for xmas, kopi luwak. The one that a civet sh*ts out.
hey I'm with you on this one, I don't go for milk in my coffee generally.

and that coffee sounds amazing.

Steamed milk? yuck! No milk at all or the tiniest drop of cold milk .. not sure about this civet sh*t stiff, though!
that is what a flat white is. davey needs his milk so what can we do?

 
You can't beat a good cup of tea. But as far AVB goes, it's biscuits that he needs. Look at the success Jose has had and he enjoys nothing more than a nice custard cream biscuit.

 
Guys guys guys, this is very interesting but you're going off-topic. Let's stick to coffee if you will.

I like an espresso, after a meal, but in the morning I have to have milk, and the milk has to be hot, or in Gullit's words, steamed.

A flat white, it appears to me, is a shot of espresso or two covered in steamed milk let's not call it hot. I thought that was a latte? What's a latte? I ask for a capuccino. Why? Because I don't know what a flat white is and I don't know what a latte is. It appears to me they may be one and the same, only one has less milk. Quite why a flat white is called a flat white is beyond me. It's a white coffee, from what I can tell. What happens if I order a white coffee? Do I get something that is not flat? I'm confused.

As for the frothy factor, well I'm strictly in the frothy camp. A bit of froth goes a long way, if you froth it up enough. I don't like coffees that start off frothy but lose their froth after a few minutes. That's not playing fair. If I want a frothy that stops being frothy I'll ask for a flat, or should that be a latte?

Chocolate and coffee is nice I've discovered. Do any of you do dark chocolate, or do you prefer milk with your black? I prefer black with my milk, but maybe that's me.

If I have one ambition for 2012 it's to drink coffee in a glass. What's coffee in a glass called, I've often wondered. Is it called a glass coffee, or a glass white? A nice tall glass with a white coffee .. looks good.

 
I never understood the difference either. "Latte" is short for caffelatte (Italian)/ cafe au lait (French)/ cafe con leche (Spanish) which all translate to 'coffee and milk'.

Here in Australia if you order a latte you get an espresso shot diluted with frothed milk. A 'flat white' is an espresso shot diluted with plain, warm milk- the same texture as an instant coffee.

 
Hmm well what is the difference between a capuccino and a latte then?

I'm partial to an affogato myself. Coffee and ice cream go well together.

 
A latte has more steamed (hot) milk and less froth, a cappuccino has less steamed milk but more froth. Unless you order your cappuccino "wet" in which case it comes with slightly more steamed milk, but not as much as a latte.

If you want the stuff in a glass, that's usually a latte.

I am glad this thread has defended into coffee and sh*t. Means less people are being ridiculous in talking about AVBs future.

DKW, how is that sh*t coffe?

 
That's what I get when I order a cappucino.

I thought that was a latte?

What the hell's going on .. ?
Yep and it drives Brits up the wall when they come here. It annoys them so much they give up on drinking coffee and head to the pub instead, thus explaining the affinity for British backpackers and alcohol-related issues in Australia.

 
This thread was one of the best for ages till it went all force beans on us. Can't you have a sellers thread?

 
But café au lait is not at all what Engl;ish people call white cofee. Café au lait is a small amount of black coffee topped to the brim of a large cup with boiling milk.

If the Infant David needs milk, why does he not just drink cold milk in a glass? Or have a mango smoothie?

On AVB's future - time will tell, and I think he should be given time - to send anophter manager packing would be risible.

 
A latte has more steamed (hot) milk and less froth, a cappuccino has less steamed milk but more froth. Unless you order your cappuccino "wet" in which case it comes with slightly more steamed milk, but not as much as a latte.

If you want the stuff in a glass, that's usually a latte.

I am glad this thread has defended into coffee and sh*t. Means less people are being ridiculous in talking about AVBs future.

DKW, how is that sh*t coffe?
Its really nice actually, very meaty (unsurprisingly). This is from Wikipedia about it

Kopi Luwak, also known as caphe cut chon (fox-dung coffee) in Vietnam and kape alamid in the Philippines, is coffee that is prepared using coffee cherries that have been eaten and partially digested by the Asian Palm Civet, then harvested from its fecal matter.[3][4] The civets digest the flesh of the coffee cherries but pass the beans inside, leaving their stomach enzymes to go to work on the beans, which adds to the coffee's prized aroma and flavor.[3] Only around 1,000 pounds (450 kg) of civet coffee make it to the market each year, and 1 pound (0.45 kg) can cost up to $600 in some parts of the world and about $100 a cup in others.[5
 
I love coffee. I have always thought I would love to own a coffee shop, but sadly lacking funds or knowledge! Maybe some day.

I hate most instant coffee, its awful stuff. There is however but one exception that is actually not bad and its this stuff:

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I would have a perculator coffee most days via the Bodum, a fantastic device, makes good tasty coffee. Java coffee from Brazil is amazing.

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My folks at home have a Gaggia device, so when I go up on the odd Sunday my old man will stick it on.

Its the real deal, great coffee put into a couple of wee Italian shots which you can drink, or else add with boiling water to a mug.

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I like the smallest amount of milk possible, just enough to cover the bottom. Really dark brown colour with a small level headed tea spoon of sugar.

MMM

 
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I just got a new one for xmas, a Russell Hobbs grind and brew one where you put the beans in, the water in and it does it all for you. It even has a timer so you can set it to brew ready for you. I have it brewing fresh of a morning for me to take some to work so I dont have to drink the cheap and nasty stuff.

 
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