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Patrick Bamford - should he get a chance?

Amazing achievement. He's done everything asked of him and more. Now the club needs to reciprocate.

 
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PloKoon13 said:
Apparently Newcastle are interested in signing Bamford:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-want-three-strikers-9140255
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Of the clubs he's been linked to

Southampton, Aston Villa, Newcastle.

The barcodes are the ones I would least like him to join because the club is too disjointed and I think the disruptive environment and inevitable managerial change would disrupt Bamford's development. 

Plus, being as he's just finishing a loan spell with Boro you'd think he'd want to avoid moving to another north east club out of respect for the team that's served him so well. 

 
Doubly so considering there's an outside chance they might get relegated. On the other hand Newcastle seem to have half their squad out injured as more or less a running theme, so he would be pretty much guaranteed game time. But yes, they're a complete mess, ideally I wouldn't want any of our players within ten miles of them.

At Southampton I'd be a bit concerned about him having to come from behind Pellè and Long in the pecking order. If he's going to be third choice we may as well keep him here. They comfortably have the most quality out of all the options though.

Villa on the other hand could be excellent. I'm not sure Tim Sherwood is necessarily the manager I'd want him learning from, but he is not afraid to blood youth, and as we know is no stranger to the 4-4-2; Bamford and Benteke could form a lethal partnership.

 
Southampton for me. I think the style of football they play is the closest to our's and that's what we need him to get used to, plus they have a good track record of bringing through young English talent and I don't see that changing. 

Oh and of the three clubs Koeman is the only one who isn't either woefully inept or nothing more than a glorified cheerleader.

 
Southampton play with a lone striker and Pelle works well for them as a target man. I'm not sure I want Bamford to be playing out wide but even that is not certain with the likes of Long, Mane and Rodriguez.

Villa do play with 2 strikers but Benteke and Agbonlahor are pretty much nailed on starters. 

Boro would be ideal for me but if they are not promoted, I hope there are more clubs interested than the three linked.

 
Blue Daze said:
Southampton for me. I think the style of football they play is the closest to our's and that's what we need him to get used to, plus they have a good track record of bringing through young English talent and I don't see that changing. 

Oh and of the three clubs Koeman is the only one who isn't either woefully inept or nothing more than a glorified cheerleader.
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I agree with all of that, Koeman is the best manager out of himself, Carver and Sherwood by an enormous margin, although I suppose there is no telling who will be in charge of Newcastle next season, or if they'll even be in the Premier League for that matter. Apparently McClaren is the odds-on favourite (those odds will only become shorter if Derby bottle the play-offs); I can't imagine that prospect would go down any better with Boro fans than Bamford going there would.

My main (only) concern with Southampton would be a potential lack of game time. He would likely go there as their third-choice striker, behind Pellè (who has missed two games this season) and Long (although they do use Long as a wide man as well). They are both decent players, although both are fairly patchy with their goalscoring form. I suppose if Southampton continue to use a three-man forward line, Bamford could also be used as the rightmost of the three.

I suppose the result of the FA Cup Final might play a part in the decision. If Arsenal win, Southampton will qualify for the Europa League. Not only does that mean Bamford would get to play European football, but it would also mean they have to play a whole load of extra fixtures in which they could give their non-first choice players some game time. If Villa win it and qualify for Europe, those advantages would transfer to them, which might make the prospect of Bamford going to Villa Park quite a bit more attractive.

 
Good news (if true)
But not suprising as he has done extremely well this season in the championship, and was unlikely to be sold before we had a chance to see how he does in the top flight imo.

 
I love the idea of a young English striker making it at Chelsea, but I think we need to accept this won't happen next year. The reason we have Drogba is to be able to play a big targetman when the Jose's tactics call for it - this is why he has preferred him to Remy in many games when both have been fit with Costa out. If we lose Drogba, Patrick won't solve that gap.

Moreover, it's one thing killing it in the Championship, another thing in the lower reaches of the Premiership and a different thing altogether at a trophies-chasing giant club. Bam-Bam (I'm taking a liking to that  :smile: ) will need to prove his chops in a strong league before he gets a chance with us.

In view of the above, I feel the most optimistic way he develops is that he shines for Boro in the Prem next season and then we pick him up to either replace Remy or be our second Schurrle, depending on how his game develops.

 
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Should beat the likes of Fraizer Campbell, Gayle, Murray, Chamakh, Appiah for a place although that's a lot of competition.​
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All in all, good team for the lad. Fast, positive/counter attacking football with speed on the flanks.​


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I'm really excited to see how he gets on this season, if he performs like he has been on previous loans, it'll be impossible for Jose to overlook him!

 
would have kept him here tbh, think he would have challenged any of our strikers (maybe barring costa) for a position. 

 
enigma said:
would have kept him here tbh, think he would have challenged any of our strikers (maybe barring costa) for a position. 
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There is no way that a player with zero Premier League minutes is going to be selected ahead of 3 players as talented and as experienced as our attacking trio. 

 
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