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Shambolic CFC - How many of current squad are worth keeping?

Goalies to sell - Sell them all

Defenders to keep - James, Cucurella, Sarr, Colwill, Acheampong

Defenders to sell - Fofana, Badiashile, Disasi, Chalobah, Gusto (not against keeping him though)

Midfielders to keep - All of them to be honest, our strongest position if everyone's fit

Attackers to keep - Palmer, Estevao, Joao Pedro and I don't know why but I wanna see Delap for another season, but I wouldn't cry if he was sold for a good price.

Attackers to sell - Neto, Garnacho, Gittens

 
Goalies to sell - Sell them all

Defenders to keep - James, Cucurella, Sarr, Colwill, Acheampong

Defenders to sell - Fofana, Badiashile, Disasi, Chalobah, Gusto (not against keeping him though)

Midfielders to keep - All of them to be honest, our strongest position if everyone's fit

Attackers to keep - Palmer, Estevao, Joao Pedro and I don't know why but I wanna see Delap for another season, but I wouldn't cry if he was sold for a good price.

Attackers to sell - Neto, Garnacho, Gittens
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Largely agree with this bar (ignoring players who don't really feature much and ignoring the obvious point that we would never be able to clear out this many in one window)

  1. I would keep Hato
  2. Sell Enzo
  3. Sell Mudryk
  4. Sell Delap
 
Largely agree with this bar (ignoring players who don't really feature much and ignoring the obvious point that we would never be able to clear out this many in one window)

  1. I would keep Hato
  2. Sell Enzo
  3. Sell Mudryk
  4. Sell Delap
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I agree with most of this too. I would probably keep or loan Gittens. We've also got to consider the players currently out on loan. From what I understand, Penders has promise but is not yet ready. Maybe as a backup keeper? Anselmino might be worth a look. I imagine Jackson will be sold and the rest either moved on or re-loaned.

 
James, Caicedo, Palmer, Estevao, Colwill and Pedro, they are the only ones I wouldn't want to lose, but even James worries me. We desperately need to change our style of football and how much running we do, but I don't even think James can play in that kind of team anymore.

I would keep Lavia, Santos, Chalobah, Acheampong and Cucurella for squad depth, but that's it. If the rest were sold, you could find a ton of players that are better.

 
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Largely agree with this bar (ignoring players who don't really feature much and ignoring the obvious point that we would never be able to clear out this many in one window)

  1. I would keep Hato
  2. Sell Enzo
  3. Sell Mudryk
  4. Sell Delap
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Ah I missed out Hato and Mudryk. I'd keep them both.

 
definitely, KDH is a prime example of how we dont get the best out of players. Anonymous for us, but on Saturday just gone he almost ran the show singlehanded, our management style stifles so many players. I suspect Reece James and Cole Palmer would benefit from some normality.

The KDH example has made me have a rethink on almost all of our players, its the buffoons in the coaching staff medical staff and SD group thats spoiling things.
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Said same after Everton game...KDH looked totally different, I'd say the same thing will happen to Enzo & Palmer if they move on.... probably a lot more would thrive too, just not suited to style we've played last few years of passing around the defence & to a keeper to hoof eventually....bought for their potential but put into sh*t teams that don't play style they were used to ........

I may be in the minority here but I can't see what the overall want for keeping Colwell.... hasn't done enough for me...a step above what we've got before his injury but not in same ball park as JT Brana Cahill & co of past yrs that we were used to....Josh not getting game time, (he's young) obv something missing in training that we are not seeing.....I've been hoping game after game that he would be starting but think it's time he went on loan to get that experience....

Alot of dross bought but who's gonna buy them if not for pittance 🙄

 
Honestly, who is worth keeping is very difficult question.

Basically it is the same reason why I was happy when we signed Garnacho, it got nothing to do with Garnacho, it got everything to do with Gittens.

It comes down to who we are getting as replacement.

 
Honestly, who is worth keeping is very difficult question.

Basically it is the same reason why I was happy when we signed Garnacho, it got nothing to do with Garnacho, it got everything to do with Gittens.

It comes down to who we are getting as replacement.
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That's all a but cryptic - can you elaborate?

 
I think who comes and goes depends on the manager and also what the owners need to balance the books.

My thoughts below.

I think Guiu's time is up, not got a lot of minutes though has not really delivered when he has.

Tosin does not seem to work well for us.

Fofana and Lavia spend a lot of time on the bench so when does that become a problem.

That leaves Amcheapong, Chalobah and Badashiel with Colwill injured. That seems a little short given the injury scenario.

Gusto is a good attacking RB and getting crosses over so would like him to stay though defensively is suspect at times.

On James, I would keep too as he offers something else as well as RB and is versatile to play CB in an emergency.

Santos is getting better as he gets more minutes would be a shame to write him off too soon.

Caicedo has been our best defensive minded defender though has been booked a lot as his judgement on making tackles is not always the best.

Enzo does not seem as athletic enough in midfield though possibly has more fight than the others and does score occasioanlly and makes assists.

Neto, scores and make assists though not regularly enough. Puts in great corners (remember Willian and Mount). He can often beat one defender.

Garnacho has a turn of pace yet often struggles to make an impact and seems very one footed. Every now and again he has a very good game.

Palmer is struggling to make an impact in his second season post injury, is it because he gets closed down faster and a psychological issue in missing chances?

Pedro our best finisher and can score superb goals yet is not a Costa or Drogba and lacks a little leading the line. Good on the ball near the goal area.

Delap works hard yet not happening for him, does not seem to be able to stretch the defence and score. Some of his best work was playing as a right winger the grave yard shift for strikers. He has occasionally had some recent luck in holding the ball to win a free kick or pass to another and get us up the field Is it enough to stay?

 
The 'keep at all costs' list is quite short - these are the guys we should be building our team around:

Colwill
Palmer
Santos
Chalobah
James
Caicedo
Acheampong
EstĂŞvĂŁo

I would also add the following 'I would prefer to keep them' players:

Cucurella
Pedro
Jackson
Maybe Hato

'Too young or haven't seen enough of them to evaluate fairly':

Essugo
Sarr
Sharman-Lowe
Penders
Anselmino

Plus the addendum of 'are capable of being good but also appear to be dickheads or have enormous flaws in their game which undermine the good parts':

Sánchez
Fernández
Fofana
Garnacho

Everybody else we can live without or should actively be looking to chuck overboard.

 
This one stood out for me. Did you type that with a straight face? Is it the 1st April today?
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He got the tense wrong. Gusto, in his first season, was a promising RB who got forward and supplied crosses even if not always high quality. He also defended well. All until Maresca had him inverting into midfield, a role for which he wasn't equipped. He hasn't been the same player since.

 
Should have added Estevao to keep as our most exciting young prospect.

Sanchez keep as keeper though confidence needs to be watched as he seemed affected when Jorgenson played. Do we need a better back-up keeper?

We have to look at continual playing out from the back as we are not City or will continue to concede have dodgy moments.

@Nibs, he was good under Poch though the Italian started playing him as a man marker and LR often plays him alongside James which I don't understand.

 
He got the tense wrong. Gusto, in his first season, was a promising RB who got forward and supplied crosses even if not always high quality. He also defended well. All until Maresca had him inverting into midfield, a role for which he wasn't equipped. He hasn't been the same player since.
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Think the Poch season was an anomaly, because I fairly remember Lyon fans warning us about Gusto.

 
Think the Poch season was an anomaly, because I fairly remember Lyon fans warning us about Gusto.
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Not sure how a season can be an anomaly. He was played to his strengths until Maresca thought he knew better. Deschamps doesn't fart around either, plays him as a RB for France.

 
Should have added Estevao to keep as our most exciting young prospect.

Sanchez keep as keeper though confidence needs to be watched as he seemed affected when Jorgenson played. Do we need a better back-up keeper?

We have to look at continual playing out from the back as we are not City or will continue to concede have dodgy moments.

@Nibs, he was good under Poch though the Italian started playing him as a man marker and LR often plays him alongside James which I don't understand.
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We need a better keeper full stop (and that has been the case for a few seasons now).

As for Gusto, I know he looked alright when he first arrived and he still has the odd moment. But my heart sinks whenever i see his name in the starting line up. As I said in one of the other threads, when he plays, he seems to see more of the ball than anyone, yet rarely does anything with it and invariably goes backwards. He's the sort of player who the opposition are more than happy to let him have the ball.

 
Not sure how a season can be an anomaly. He was played to his strengths until Maresca thought he knew better. Deschamps doesn't fart around either, plays him as a RB for France.
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Because the 9 assists we saw him produce under Poch isn't something that reflects the quality we see in Gusto in terms of decision making. We can see with our eyes he is incredibly frustrating in that regard. He averaged 3 assists in all comps prior to his move here and is averaging the same amount now.

I find it tedious bringing Maresca back into the fold, but I disagree with you. Maresca did know better. He realized our defence is bang average, hence the rigid system and why we are now conceding 2+ goals a game when under Maresca we had the 3rd best defence in the league with a defence/GK that had no elite quality bar James.

 
Under Maresca if Gusto was playing as a man marker this might explain why he did not go too far forward.

Also there is sense in this as we are far too easy to get at through the middle, now it is not just the CBs fault yet also the defensive midfielders to shut down the through balls.

 
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