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Should Graham Potter be sacked? (2nd poll)

With results deteoriating further, and the club sliding into mid table, should he be given the sack?

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Victor90 said:
The sooner he goes the better.

Many people on here wanted to give Frank the rest of the season because the season was already over and there was nothing to lose, and the same people are saying it all over again, believe it or not, they've learned nothing. 

I don't think we can win a Champions League with such a fresh squad, but I do know we never would under Potter, and with the quality we have we could certainly be a dark horse, who else does it better than Chelsea FC when it comes to managerial bounces and winning a cup from them? Both of our CL wins came from exactly that. 

The more we waste time on a manager who's evidently not good enough and never will be we're going to waste an opportunity to get something out of this season. 
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Well said, and I still think Top 4 is attainable for someone who comes in with the right attitude and ambition to impart some much needed confidence into a talented squad ... the top 3 are away and clear, but 4th is there for the taking for any team in the top half that can put a strong run together.

 
Sexyfootball said:
Well said, and I still think Top 4 is attainable for someone who comes in with the right attitude and ambition to impart some much needed confidence into a talented squad ... the top 3 are away and clear, but 4th is there for the taking for any team in the top half that can put a strong run together.
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With Newcastle blundering it definitely isn't impossible, though Liverpool are resurging now. We're in a worse position now than when Lampard was sacked though (29 points from 19 compared to 31 points from 23 now), and even then Tuchel was only barely able to get us over the line.

 
Sexyfootball said:
Well said, and I still think Top 4 is attainable for someone who comes in with the right attitude and ambition to impart some much needed confidence into a talented squad ... the top 3 are away and clear, but 4th is there for the taking for any team in the top half that can put a strong run together.
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And even if we do go out against Dortmund or don't finish top 4, a new manager could at least put this team on the right track to progress under somebody else next season. This team is far too talented to average 4 goals every 15 games.

The likes of Mudryk could potentially finish this season with no goals or assists, that's how sh*te we are at the moment. This is just dire football and I dare say our league position flatters us for the football we are playing. 

Potter has shown no sign of tactical insight or adaptability, he's going to keep playing the same way until the season ends if we give him the chance, and we are destined to finish in the bottom half of the table with a negative goal difference. Why is that okay exactly? People saying we've got nothing to lose so f**k it need to give their heads a wobble, the financial investment of this team can simply not afford such a thing and it can massively hinder our performances for next season. 

 
Drogba1 said:
With Newcastle blundering it definitely isn't impossible, though Liverpool are resurging now. We're in a worse position now than when Lampard was sacked though (29 points from 19 compared to 31 points from 23 now), and even then Tuchel was only barely able to get us over the line.
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We're further back in terms of points too ... I think it was only 5 to make up last time round, and now it is 10. 

For sure, an exceptional run would be required, but why not at least try !

 
Ten Hag's managed to transform a rotten Man Utd team in 6 months, what's Potter's excuse?

 
I think a new manager could at least get us top 6 and into the quarter finals of the CL. More importantly, they'd have time to build for the next season and decide which players they want to get rid of.

 
dellaw said:
can the people who are casting NO votes to sack please explain your reasoning  because i cant see any reason not to 
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Because it is clear to me most of the players have decided to stick the knife in to him, and I have seen this trait for decades from different player groups and different managers who became "useless".

So Potter is such a terrible manager that the players are unable to do anything but lose to Southampton right? So that means the players put in that amazing game and beat the Italian Champs at home 3-0, against their highly respected manager right? So is to the players credit vs Milan but all on Potter otherwise?

So was it TT being useless that we lost at Southampton and Leeds, or was it the players? Different managers, same issues.

Just tired of player power, I hope the owners put a stop to it.

 
So I've been wondering. @CaitlinCFC, @Munkworth, @dkw, @mojoand @Valerieare you in the Potter out now camp or give him more time camp.

I would ask @Modbut he has been clear for a long old while he does not believe Potter to be the man.

Also does any of you have any Vaseline you could send @coco? I hear that fence sitting has left quite a sting...

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axman2526 said:
So I've been wondering. @CaitlinCFC, @Munkworth, @dkw, @mojoand @Valerieare you in the Potter out now camp or give him more time camp.

I would ask @Modbut he has been clear for a long old while he does not believe Potter to be the man.

Also does any of you have any Vaseline you could send @coco? I hear that fence sitting has left quite a sting...

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Sigh. I just don't know @axman2526 Four days a week I feel patient and reasonable (the excellently worded @evissy line in the Potter thread), the other three days - the ones after a match - I'm seething and in the other excellently worded @abramovich camp.

Focussing on the team and not the finance (i.e. the cost of sacking Potter and his staff) and what this may or may not to do for the policy of Clearlake, for this season, I suppose the team will hardly gain anything by getting in a third manager in one season. Plus, with so many new players, most of them new to the UK and the league, is it realistic to expect a tune from them mid-February... But f**king hell, just when I thought I saw some babysteps forward, it's a giant leap for mankind backwards, and we're talking very talented players here! Just goes to show that football is about working together, not about just putting 11 classy individuals on the pitch.

So for the moment I'm in camp @nonotnowjim : take the pain now, try and get rid of the managerial merry-go-round and build a more sustainable frame around the men's team. First step now is hoping we can still get a result against Dortmund (I know, I know), and wait for the summer and re-evaluate.

 
As @Valerie suggests here there are no visible steps of progression on field. That is what frustrates me the most here. However I am still not sure whether the coach here can lift of the collective monkey off backs of the players. They have to do it themselves. It can be extra hard as our squad is relatively young. 10 years ago we had a squad full of 28 year old players who are able to reflect things from the experience and work through though times. Young lads will probably need leaders around them.

I am pretty sure the time comes soon where we turn this around and collective would have learned a thing or two about this bleak period. We all know winning is a habit and this current squad has no idea what that feels like. 

What comes to Potter is he is not an extension of our culture at Chelsea from Roman-era. He is from an other type of culture. We haven't really had a coach that coaches the players as humans to be the best they can be so they can perform the best way. Holistic approach as someone here smarty mentioned. Now this is naturally how I interpret Potters approach. I have no idea whether that is the case in reality.

Anyway a manager like Klopp or Pep for me are more of old school war type leaders. They bring the feeling in and are willing to sacrifice their personas to the circus so to say. They are a bit closer to the fan in terms of feelings than Potter who rarely is able to transfer a meaningful feeling in football context through his face.

This is also why people here are saying Potter's side looks uninterested. The players are not uninterested, they are just in a massive block. When (hopefully soon) they are playing more freely Potter's face will remain the same. It has nothing to do with his on side-field persona. You can't shout players to come out of a block. People don't work like so. Motivation has to come from inside. In a perfect world anyway I suppose.

In short term that can be true (shouting works) and I am sure best coaches in the world have all the tricks of the book. But then you expose yourself to a condition where players expect you to either shout or not shout. Use that trick on them....

We are in a major watershed moment as a club here. Sack Potter because of (irrelevant) results or let them work their way out of this hump. If things are going well inside the club with players and Potter we should keep him. They then as a group have a good chance of getting out this rut.

 
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