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Should Graham Potter be sacked? (2nd poll)

With results deteoriating further, and the club sliding into mid table, should he be given the sack?

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Ignoring the injured players, if you take out all the players who are under the age of 23, that still leaves 19 players GP can pick from, whose average age is the magical "28".

"Young players" is the latest excuse I guess ... 

GP is simply not getting a tune out of his squad, probably because there is no discernible style, no patterns of play, no consistency in formation or selection, limited tactical ability vs the other managers he is up against, and no winning mindset.

He's sadly not a good enough manager for a top club. Full stop. If he doesn't win at Spurs then his PL win % will be LOWER than it was at Brighton !!! And it was only 28.3% there LOL.

Sometimes, when your horse is dead, you simply have to stop flogging it and get a new horse !

 
We have 15 games left of the season. 16 if you include the 2nd leg against Dortmund where we get knocked out of the CL.

There have been no signs of anything from Potter in 5 months. No improvements. No style of play. Not one occasion where a tactical change helped us win a game.

If we are writing off the season and just getting through it, what do we have to lose by making the change now? Giving someone better 3-4 months to get their ideas in before the end of the season. Otherwise, we'll continue with this downward spiral, and if we make the change in the summer, the manager will only have pre-season.

 
axman2526 said:
So I've been wondering. @CaitlinCFC, @Munkworth, @dkw, @mojoand @Valerieare you in the Potter out now camp or give him more time camp.

I would ask @Modbut he has been clear for a long old while he does not believe Potter to be the man.

Also does any of you have any Vaseline you could send @coco? I hear that fence sitting has left quite a sting...

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Keep him until the end of the season...

 
@axman2526  I remember Arteta at some point got Arsenal on the brink of releagtion but then they started winning in the last third of the season and finished in the first half of the league table. I've never seen us play so clueless as we are playing under Potter. when Conte demanded from our players against the City just to shoot the ball for 90 minutes as far as it goes away from our box there was more 'sense' than this shower of sh*t we are watching now.  I've accepted the fact that we are winnig f**k all this season long time ago. Can I accept we will not win anything next season, not even CL spot, no problem. the problem is I see us getting in the relegation battle and if we do, Potter is not the man to lift this team out of the cesspit. we will simply end up in the Championship. with a billion dollar squad, can you imagine the ignominy? I think this job is too big for Potter, time will tell.

 
SO we are Keeping him till end of season , then GP can have another transfer market  and a pre season  and he can say he is integrating the new players , and they are still very  young,  and we cant expect them to play two games a week  and a lot more excuses from Chelsea ,s MR  pc friendly manager  who believes everyone should get a chance to play  take it in turns boys 

 
We have a fecking PE teacher as our manager. And it would be fine had his sidekick not been a PE Assistant/Geography teacher.

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Despite my concern after the last game, other than a short-term fix to salvage our season, I don't see any reason to sack him now:

1) We don't have much to play for considering we are out of all competitions. We are only in the CL and that is actually the only competition we are playing decently in so will a new manager really make that much of a difference? The loss to Dortmund was unlucky but it could have ended the same way under other managers. We were clearly the better team and it wasn't different from many of our performances under Tuchel.

2) Several of the players we signed in January were apparently convinced to join because of the 'project' and after a personal conversation with Potter. It would be a bad look to sack a manager 3 games after they have just joined the club. 

3) There's an influx of new players from transfers and injuries. This will probably sound like an excuse to most people but it is the truth. We've changed half of our starting line-up in the span of a few weeks so it is going to take a while for the players to understand each other and their roles. (It will probably help if Potter stops chopping and changing so some sort of spine can be built)

3) If the club does plan on sacking him it makes more sense to do it at the end of the season after they've had enough to search for a replacement that matches what they are looking for at the club. Simply bringing in a Poch or the next hipster manager to save our season without any long-term thinking is just going to be us repeating mistakes of the past.

4) What if we sack him and performances don't change? Sacking a manager for performance-related reasons is always a risk. If the new manager comes in and there is no bounce, you end up with an egg on your face. During the infamous Mourinho season, we had a bit of a bounce when Hiddink came in but it didn't last long and the team pretty much continued playing at the same level for the rest of the season. 

To conclude, I personally think the safer option is to wait it out until the end of the season. That should give enough time for Potter to prove himself with his new signings and also enough time for the board to search for an adequate replacement should things not work out. I don't think sacking him now without any contingency will be conducive to the club's success in the future. 

 
Hashishi said:
We have a fecking PE teacher as our manager. And it would be fine had his sidekick not been a PE Assistant/Geography teacher.
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I don't know any teachers who get paid half a million £ per month after tax.

 
Think he’ll probably be here for the rest of the season. I can’t imagine a big change for him to convince people he should be kept on but I think the ownership are probably looking for someone else by now and I’d rather they took their time and got it right rather than take Poch, mourinho or an interim.

If a change is to be made I’d hope it’s made before preseason.

 
axman2526 said:
Because it is clear to me most of the players have decided to stick the knife in to him, and I have seen this trait for decades from different player groups and different managers who became "useless".

So Potter is such a terrible manager that the players are unable to do anything but lose to Southampton right? So that means the players put in that amazing game and beat the Italian Champs at home 3-0, against their highly respected manager right? So is to the players credit vs Milan but all on Potter otherwise?

So was it TT being useless that we lost at Southampton and Leeds, or was it the players? Different managers, same issues.

Just tired of player power, I hope the owners put a stop to it.
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But we have practically a whole new bunch of players now so I don't think the players do stick the knife in or down tools etc. Maybe it is just our club - that the job is so big and the pressure so intense that coaches just can't cope. The top ones manage to for a while - Mourinho, Carlo, Conte and TT. ALL did brilliantly for a while and then all burned out. 

Seems we do need a coach who is made of stronger stuff - look how Ten Hag has turned Man Utd around in such a short space of time. Got rid of the trouble players and getting the best out of the likes of Luke Shaw & Rashford. Still like to think Potter could turn it around but it's hard to back that up after Saturday. But I can't blame the current bunch of players as it's something that just keeps repeating itself at our club with totally different squads. 

It remains to be seen whether the club let Potter get rid of some of the deadwood and try and do what Arteta has at Arsenal. If we lose our next three games to Spurs, Leeds and CL match, I can't see how he can keep his job.

We've had some bad seaons in recent times amongst all the glory, but this is the worst for some considerable time - especially when you take into account of how much money has been spunked!

 
Nibs said:
It remains to be seen whether the club let Potter get rid of some of the deadwood and try and do what Arteta has at Arsenal. If we lose our next three games to Spurs, Leeds and CL match, I can't see how he can keep his job.
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This for me is the crunch he needs a win in the next three or at least two draws.

Otherwise like you suggest the chances of changing manager will be very high.

I have some sympathy just the number of injuries to key players and influx of so many new players so late would challenge the best, yet the squad would be a great temptation for a top manager with a pre-season.

 
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