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Summer Exodus. Should we do it?

Lukaku

Werner

Pulisic

Kante

Jorginho

Alonso

Barkley

Bakayoko

Rudiger

Christensen

Sarr

Azpilicueta

Kepa

 
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Valerie said:
A "Who do we want to keep" thread would be a much quicker read.
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Right now that would be 

Silva

James

Chilwell

Mount

Kante

And Havertz (IF he pulls his finger out more often!)

 
Sexyfootball said:
I hope Boehly is intending to put in a great scouting system. Money ball approach etc etc. Similar to the start of the Roman era would do me, when it was all about young players who were "hungry to win trophies", English spine, etc etc ... 

The last thing we want is more expensive mercenaries like Lukaku ... 

Most of our top transfer fees paid haven't worked out - lessons to be learned !

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Wow. It looks a bit bad in a list form. Havertz, Pulisic, Jorginho, Chilly, Ziyech, Kovacic get a free pass and Lukaku can still do something but otherwise it is just money thrown away pretty much. 

 
Valerie said:
A "Who do we want to keep" thread would be a much quicker read.
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It's actually a very sad indictment of the modern footballer. So many seem to be completely lacking in basic skills and ability, exacerbated in the fan frustration stakes by the fact that most of them are paid the equivalent of two National Lottery wins every year of their effing contracts !!!

 
axman2526 said:
Here is the thread you wanted @Nibs who you want to add to the list?
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Forgot I had listed the players I would keep. And after today I don't think I would add any to that list. Maybe Kovacic who is decent but yet again today, two of Liverpools best chances came from when kovacic lost possession. 

Silva

James

Chilwell

Mount

Kante

And Havertz (IF he pulls his finger out more often!)

 
Ah we are doing a keep list? Well guess that is shorter for me top @Nibs

Mendy (as a number 2)

Silva

Colwill

Chalobah

James

Chilwell

Kovacic

Gallagher 

Mount

Pulisic 

Broja

 
axman2526 said:
Ah we are doing a keep list? Well guess that is shorter for me top @Nibs

Mendy (as a number 2)

Silva

Colwill

Chalobah

James

Chilwell

Kovacic

Gallagher 

Mount

Pulisic 

Broja
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Yeah, Gallagher and Colwill to come into the squad definitely.

But you would keep Pulicic but not Havertz? 

:ohmy:

 
Nibs said:
Yeah, Gallagher and Colwill to come into the squad definitely.

But you would keep Pulicic but not Havertz? 

:ohmy:
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Aye I would. Would not want us to lose @USATim

Hmm, why did I? I guess is like with Kante, I don't think he will be offered/will sign a new deal, so therefore out and get a fee.

I think we are heading down a full rebuild path on and off the pitch with our new owners and that will mean we are not going to be near the elite level for a few seasons.

I see CP accepting that to stay, especially with a US owner who will focus marketing on him.

CP frustrates me like anyone else. He is too selfish and has tunnel vision, but he does have something about him, he can score headers, is two footed and a good dribbler. He may yet blossom in to something more.

Havertz is going to be a cracking players, but I don't believe he will settle for us being a few years away from challenging for honours again and therefore sell him now and get the best price.

 
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Trueblue76 said:
You would expect the new owners would want to make an impact, In JM's first season we signed the following to make a statement...

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i'd expect a raft of transfer business again with the new owners wanting to make a statement and assuming the club have their targets identified and are ready to go, otherwise we could be in for a long summer like last season.
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Interesting almost half the above were Portuguese like our then new manager (JM).

In terms of long term success with the club, just over half were really successful and over half of this group were non-portuguese.

 
I would be very happy if we could "just" sell Lukaku, Werner and Kepa. That would free up massive amount of wages and it shouldn't be hard to find better and cheaper options.

Azpilicueta, Alonso and Jorginho are the next on my list to go, need better options when R.James, Chilwell, Kante and Kovacic are injured.

 
So likely departees:

Alonso, Azpi, Rudiger, Christensen and possibly Jorginho.

Hopefully Lukaku moves on.

Werner probably on loan.

One paper running with the story Ten Hag wants Kante....?

Other aspects

See us buying two CBs and a defensive midfielder.

The return of Chilwell if it is successful good yet would imagine there is a fair chance we need to go to the market again perhaps in December.

Not winning a domestic cup will make it more difficult to grow our sponsorship revenue yet will they be able to grow our revenue in this department.

I think new owners will be careful with buying new players with the stadium rebuild in mind. 

 
The worst thing about the upcoming window is that we are about to lose defenders and we're likely focused on replacing them when up top we are toothless. Yet another season where we just don't look threatening going forward.

Won't happen but i'd sell Lukaku, Pulisic, Werner and Ziyech and Odoi if i had the chance. Just not good enough week in week out to mount a title challenge.

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Rudiger - Free (big shame)

Christensen - Free

Azpi - Free

Alonso (I think he's worth keeping around but I dont think he wants to stick around)

Werner - I'd like him to get more chances than he is because I still feel he contribues more than some

Ziyech - Just no consistency whatsoever, he has quality but he just looks to weak for the league.

CHO - If someone came in with a reasonable offer for him then we should take it in a heartbeat.

Jorginho - I think his time is up here, we need some legs now and change the way we play.

Lukaku - I think hes one of our worst transfers, I see us struggling to offload him. If we do get an offer we should cut our loses and move on asap.

Pulisic - He has the ability but I dont think he's suited to the league like Ziyech. Technically great but just not consistant enough.

We're lucky in a way that we some great youth players to plug some gaps.

Out of all those players I see Lukaku and Ziyech, Pulisic staying. We should bring in Gallagher, Broja and Colwill to easy the pain of losing some players.

I have no idea who will come in and how much Tuchel will get but I hope we have a plan over the next few seasons to build a squad that works together and not a bunch of talented players mashed into a formation. We badly need a top striker who has the ability to link up play, our scouts need to work to find a solution because the next big thing just gets snapped up and someone like Lewa is coming to the twilight of their careers and it rarely works out for us. Correct me if im wrong but I think Costa was the last player to score 20 premier goals for us in a season?

I would even look at Gabriel Jesus if he's available.

 
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I hope people realise that with an influx in young players comes an influx of inconsistency as well. 

Look at Arsenal. Look at us under Lampard. We'd be taking two steps back. 

We need to be precise in our transfer strategy. Proven experienced mixed with young hungry players. 

 
Yes we should, as many as possible should go.

Of the current squad, no including those out on loan, just focus on keeping:

Silva, Chalobah

James, Chilwell

Kovacic

Mount, Pulisic

That is all. Any of the rest you can get decent fees for.

 
Nibs said:
Forgot I had listed the players I would keep. And after today I don't think I would add any to that list. Maybe Kovacic who is decent but yet again today, two of Liverpools best chances came from when kovacic lost possession. 

Silva

James

Chilwell

Mount

Kante

And Havertz (IF he pulls his finger out more often!)
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Would add chalobah and Conor Gallagher to that list,and broja 

 
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