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Alan Shearer.
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In his later years maybe, but there was a time he was awesome... one of the best English players of all time (There I said it!!)
On Mikel.. he is unbelievable, too quote Jose "pure gold" ... Manure and us didn't go through all that fighting for nothing.
Garrard for me btw
yes i am on a chelsea board so i know the reaction i will get, but how f**king obsessed with our club are you lot? Out of all the players in world football it is Gerrard and Carragher who you feel are most overrated?! It is pretty laughable. How can Carragher be overrated when he doesnt get into the England team and rarely gets lauded over by any of the media. It is only foreign opposition players that ever credit him aside from our fans. As for Steven, he is the best all round central midfield player in the country, easily, how can he be overrated?
Players like Totti, Del Piero, Raul (although he was ace for a while), Defoe, Bent, Paul Robinson, Rio Ferdinand, Ibrahimovic, not even getting a mention. you all need to take a step back and put your strange hatred of us and ours to one side. Oh, through Robben and Joe Cole in there too!
Players like Totti, Del Piero, Raul (although he was ace for a while), Defoe, Bent, Paul Robinson, Rio Ferdinand, Ibrahimovic, not even getting a mention. you all need to take a step back and put your strange hatred of us and ours to one side. Oh, through Robben and Joe Cole in there too!
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I was about to mention Defoe, but then I remembered that even spuds fans don't rate him anymore! the useless greedy little tosser!!
PS: Calm down Rob, it's only a forum!
PS: Calm down Rob, it's only a forum!
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He is? Are you sure? Looked nice on the front cover of OK magazine though
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Gerard Stevens being a great player is a media induced myth. He is a good player who has occasional great matches. But he is NOT a great player. The plus with him is that he often has these intermittent 'great matches' when the pressure is really on. Such as in finals etc. Which is a hell of a good quality to have, and not to be sneezed at. But, it's this very quality that blinds people to his Mr. Invisible act that he does so much of the time. He is a good player. But he is not and will probably never be, a 'great' player. And as such he is indeed one of the most overrated players around.
Oh, and he wouldn't get into the Chelsea midfield if he played for us. Lamps, Maka, Mik and Ballack would be ahead of him.
(and come to think of it, probably Sidwell too...)
Oh, and he wouldn't get into the Chelsea midfield if he played for us. Lamps, Maka, Mik and Ballack would be ahead of him.
(and come to think of it, probably Sidwell too...)
I dont mean to insult you, but are you an idiot? Mikel is a decent looking player with great prospects, Ballack has been sh*te, Lampard doesnt merit discussion, Makalele was great but not anymore.Gerard Stevens being a great player is a media induced myth. He is a good player who has occasional great matches. But he is NOT a great player. The plus with him is that he often has these intermittent 'great matches' when the pressure is really on. Such as in finals etc. Which is a hell of a good quality to have, and not to be sneezed at. But, it's this very quality that blinds people to his Mr. Invisible act that he does so much of the time. He is a good player. But he is not and will probably never be, a 'great' player. And as such he is indeed one of the most overrated players around.Oh, and he wouldn't get into the Chelsea midfield if he played for us. Lamps, Maka, Mik and Ballack would be ahead of him.
(and come to think of it, probably Sidwell too...)
The main body of your point is ridiculous. I am a season ticket holder and i guess i see a lot more of him than you, and there are undoubdteldy games where he doesnt shine, but there are also the vast majority where he is a different class to everyone else. He isnt my favourite player, but he is without doubt the best player we have and I will say it again, THE MOST COMPLETE CENTRAL MIDFIELD PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY.
Thing is Rob, on what criterea are you basing this 'factual' assessment of Stevie G.
He played predominently as a right-hand sided attacking midfielder, with little or no defensive responsibilities, for the majority of the season, and got half the number of goals as Frank and a lot less assists.
Surely, as an attacking midfielder, goals and assists are a pretty good basis on whether they have had a good season or not, so my question to you is how can you honestly justify, other than by media hype, the claim he is the best midfiedler in the country.
Please do fill us in on the myriad intangibles that make Stevie that God that he is, becuase I think most of us fail to see them....
He played predominently as a right-hand sided attacking midfielder, with little or no defensive responsibilities, for the majority of the season, and got half the number of goals as Frank and a lot less assists.
Surely, as an attacking midfielder, goals and assists are a pretty good basis on whether they have had a good season or not, so my question to you is how can you honestly justify, other than by media hype, the claim he is the best midfiedler in the country.
Please do fill us in on the myriad intangibles that make Stevie that God that he is, becuase I think most of us fail to see them....
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Joe Cole.
At least in England.
At least in England.
no problem Tim.
first off, you have shown that you havent watched as much of him as I have because he didnt spend the majority of the season as an attacking player with no defensive responsibilities. Unless he is played behind a striker, which is occasional and not the norm, he always has defensive responsibilities. Jermaine Pennant played more games than any other liverpool player last season, wide right, so Gerrard wasnt there the majority of the season.
Steven Gerrard can defend and tackle as well as any other midfield player in the country. He drived forward better than any other central midfield player in the country. His passing is as good as ANY PLAYER in the country, his shooting is as good as any central midfield player in the country (just because Lampard shoots every time he is within 30 yards of goal doesnt mean he is better) and he can cross as well as any player in the country.
He doesnt have as many assists because he doesnt take all of the set peices, we didnt score all that many goals, and we are not very strong from set peices as a whole whether he takes them or not. The fact that he can play adeptly in any advanced midfield role and also as well as a full back should prove his merits.
I ask again, name me a central midfielder who is as complete a player as Gerrard? Essien, maybe? aside from that, i cannot think of anyone, even then I think Gerrard is better than Essien at crossing and passing.
The main point i was making is that for him to be considered the "most overrated player in the world" is obscene.
midlandblue
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I would rather Scholes than Stevens and he's ginger.
Easy: Frank Lampard. Don't believe me? Check the stats. Not through Blue or Red eyes, but pure black and white stats. Media hype: Gerrard can do no right, Lampard can do no wrong. So there you go. Most overrated player: Gerrard, most underrated player Lampard.
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My idiocracy is well documented, Rob!
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