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Wrong about Sarri?

bisright1 said:
Thought we played well today but finishing let us down. If we can sort that out we could be in good shape for next season. 
No idea how we sort that out. I look back to a couple of years ago and wonder how we didn't buy aubamayang. 
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Aubameyang? Are you serious?
 
bisright1 said:
Because you are trying to see only negatives 
We are nothing like Wenger's arsenal. We are one season into a project to change our style of football.
I am looking forward to the day Sarri wins a big trophy with us and you and wallosh still find something to complain about. 
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A big trophy? It's good to be optimistic at times.
 
Scott Harris said:
He was my first choice once rumours of Costa wanting out started. I kept banging on about him in the rumours thread before he signed for Arsenal. It seemed like such an obvious choice, but he was another striker that slipped through our fingers.
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He simply would have been another Morata here. We don't create chances as much as Arsenal does, he definitely would have struggle here. Don't forget he gets missing in most games and he and Morata are few of the laziest forwards I have ever seen.
 
wallosh said:
Scott Harris said:
He was my first choice once rumours of Costa wanting out started. I kept banging on about him in the rumours thread before he signed for Arsenal. It seemed like such an obvious choice, but he was another striker that slipped through our fingers.
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He simply would have been another Morata here. We don't create chances as much as Arsenal does, he definitely would have struggle here. Don't forget he gets missing in most games and he and Morata are few of the laziest forwards I have ever seen.
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wallosh said:
Scott Harris said:
He was my first choice once rumours of Costa wanting out started. I kept banging on about him in the rumours thread before he signed for Arsenal. It seemed like such an obvious choice, but he was another striker that slipped through our fingers.
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He simply would have been another Morata here. We don't create chances as much as Arsenal does, he definitely would have struggle here. Don't forget he gets missing in most games and he and Morata are few of the laziest forwards I have ever seen.
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Us and Arsenal are roughly level on the XG metre (which in layman terms calculates the quality of chances create and probability of a goal).

 
wallosh said:
chi blue said:
June this year, i.e 2/3 weeks. Then thank him and dispense with his services. 
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June this year? Haha, the media will slaughter our board for not being patient with him after qualifying us for the champions league. I personally already know he will struggle next year because he has overachieved by finishing 3rd in the league this season, it will be even more difficult to finish 4th next season because Spurs, Arsenal and United will be stronger next season. But I think it's fair to give him till next season, if by November he is still throwing tantrums about not knowing how to motivate the players or he still doesn't know why we come out of the dressing room and have a bad second half, we should just let him go and appoint a new manager in December.
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The only team that may get better are Arsenal. Spurs have stagnanted and United are f**ked even more so than Liverpool circa 10-12.

 
Argo said:
The only team that may get better are Arsenal. Spurs have stagnanted and United are f**ked even more so than Liverpool circa 10-12.
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I think the Spurs will strengthen there team immensely next season because they are through with the stadium stuff, and that will make Pochettino want to stick around. I can see the possibility of them finishing second once more next season.
 
wallosh said:
Argo said:
The only team that may get better are Arsenal. Spurs have stagnanted and United are f**ked even more so than Liverpool circa 10-12.
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I think the Spurs will strengthen there team immensely next season because they are through with the stadium stuff, and that will make Pochettino want to stick around. I can see the possibility of them finishing second once more next season.
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I think your wrong on all counts, they definitely are not through the stadium stuff at all. 

 
We are in trouble if Sarri remains with the club beyond this season. I don't care that they finished 3rd. If that's your only reasoning as to why he should stay, then you must not have watched the full season. The competition around us was dreadful. The fact that they finished 3rd after only winning 7 of their final 16 league matches proves how bad the rest of the teams were. This was also one of the lowest goal scoring seasons the club has had since Abramovich bought the team. His refusal to adapt and make necessary changes hurt this team. He kept going back to a losing formula despite the bad results, and it wasn't until he was under pressure by the fans and the press that he finally gave in, and by no coincidence they started playing better football. If our transfer ban gets delayed, I do not trust him making any signings. The two players he brought in and swore by were huge failures. His tactics and mentality are not suited for the Premier League.

 
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Bramskii said:
We are in trouble if Sarri remains with the club beyond this season. I don't care that they finished 3rd. If that's your only reasoning as to why he should stay, then you must not have watched the full season. The competition around us was dreadful. The fact that they finished 3rd after only winning 7 of their final 16 league matches proves how bad the rest of the teams were. This was also one of the lowest goal scoring seasons the club has had since Abramovich bought the team. His refusal to adapt and make necessary changes hurt this team. He kept going back to a losing formula despite the bad results, and it wasn't until he was under pressure by the fans and the press that he finally gave in, and by no coincidence they started playing better football. If our transfer ban gets delayed, I do not trust him making any signings. The two players he brought in and swore by were huge failures. His tactics and mentality are not suited for the Premier League.
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Excellent post, most of my fears are covered, he just hasn't endeared himself to the fans, nor the Hierarchy, a mutual split might be beneficial to all parties, life at Chelsea eh

 
Bramskii said:
We are in trouble if Sarri remains with the club beyond this season. I don't care that they finished 3rd. If that's your only reasoning as to why he should stay, then you must not have watched the full season. The competition around us was dreadful. The fact that they finished 3rd after only winning 7 of their final 16 league matches proves how bad the rest of the teams were. This was also one of the lowest goal scoring seasons the club has had since Abramovich bought the team. His refusal to adapt and make necessary changes hurt this team. He kept going back to a losing formula despite the bad results, and it wasn't until he was under pressure by the fans and the press that he finally gave in, and by no coincidence they started playing better football. If our transfer ban gets delayed, I do not trust him making any signings. The two players he brought in and swore by were huge failures. His tactics and mentality are not suited for the Premier League.
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Ballack & Blu said:
Excellent post, most of my fears are covered, he just hasn't endeared himself to the fans, nor the Hierarchy, a mutual split might be beneficial to all parties, life at Chelsea eh
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My hope remains the ban stays in place and so does Sarri. He has said in the past that the transfer market is the refuge of the weak. I would like to see what he does with our squad for another season. If it goes wrong then his contract will be up and it would be a very rare thing for a Chelsea manager to see out his contract. That on its own would be something special.

 
Bramskii said:
We are in trouble if Sarri remains with the club beyond this season. I don't care that they finished 3rd. If that's your only reasoning as to why he should stay, then you must not have watched the full season. The competition around us was dreadful. The fact that they finished 3rd after only winning 7 of their final 16 league matches proves how bad the rest of the teams were. This was also one of the lowest goal scoring seasons the club has had since Abramovich bought the team. His refusal to adapt and make necessary changes hurt this team. He kept going back to a losing formula despite the bad results, and it wasn't until he was under pressure by the fans and the press that he finally gave in, and by no coincidence they started playing better football. If our transfer ban gets delayed, I do not trust him making any signings. The two players he brought in and swore by were huge failures. His tactics and mentality are not suited for the Premier League.
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Terrible post, coming 3rd without a competent striker and only one midfielder who can score is actually impressive. Jorginho and Kovacic are both class players. I accept Jorginho didn't adapt immediately, though his struggles were exacerbated buy a lack of technical players, thanks to Jose and Conte. Kovacic is a supremely talented player, people criticize him for not scoring goals, but that is not his job. People focus on his lack of goal scoring because our strikers and AM's don't score goals, it is unfair to attack Kovacic for the faults of others. 

The two mangers who ended up above Sarri have had multiple years to build their teams. Were Pep and Klopp much more impressive in their first seasons?   

 
Bramskii said:
We are in trouble if Sarri remains with the club beyond this season. I don't care that they finished 3rd. If that's your only reasoning as to why he should stay, then you must not have watched the full season. The competition around us was dreadful. The fact that they finished 3rd after only winning 7 of their final 16 league matches proves how bad the rest of the teams were. This was also one of the lowest goal scoring seasons the club has had since Abramovich bought the team. His refusal to adapt and make necessary changes hurt this team. He kept going back to a losing formula despite the bad results, and it wasn't until he was under pressure by the fans and the press that he finally gave in, and by no coincidence they started playing better football. If our transfer ban gets delayed, I do not trust him making any signings. The two players he brought in and swore by were huge failures. His tactics and mentality are not suited for the Premier League.
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Suppose a cup final beating Liverpool and Spurs, and outplayed City in the final is to be ignored though? 

European finals are also a piece of piss to get to nowdays.

We were the second quickest team to reach 100 goals this year behind City.

Conceded the 3rd least goals in the league, even with Jorginho and David Luiz being so awful defensively apparently.

We didn't score as many as the teams around us in the league but what other manager is going to do better with Morata, Giroud and Higuain as his options?

You say his transfers were poor but Jorginho has been vital to the team with RLC saying as much in interviews. I agree Higuain has been poor but it was a risk we had to take. Who else could we have realistically got? Piatek could have struggled just as much leaving the Serie A.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Suppose a cup final beating Liverpool and Spurs, and outplayed City in the final is to be ignored though? 

European finals are also a piece of piss to get to nowdays.

We were the second quickest team to reach 100 goals this year behind City.

Conceded the 3rd least goals in the league, even with Jorginho and David Luiz being so awful defensively apparently.

We didn't score as many as the teams around us in the league but what other manager is going to do better with Morata, Giroud and Higuain as his options?

You say his transfers were poor but Jorginho has been vital to the team with RLC saying as much in interviews. I agree Higuain has been poor but it was a risk we had to take. Who else could we have realistically got? Piatek could have struggled just as much leaving the Serie A.
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It is if you get our run in the EL.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Hardly when you're having to balance premier league games 2 or 3 days before and after. 
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Come on now, let's not dress it up to make it look like it was some big achievement, up until the semi finals the majority of those teams would be lucky to play in the championship.

 
Ernie_blue said:
Come on now, let's not dress it up to make it look like it was some big achievement, up until the semi finals the majority of those teams would be lucky to play in the championship.
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Its also not some walk in the park.

What about the other points i made?

 
Ernie_blue said:
Fair points, not that I am actually that bothered and we have a great chance to win the EL but it was a piss easy run.
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Can only beat who's in front of you though. Don't think our run can be a beating stick for Sarri like some of our fans do.

 
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