John Terry Retires from International Football

[The Moos]

Just seen this on the Sky Sport's website via Twitter, in the article is states this:

'The delegation, led by George Carter-Stephenson QC - who successfully defended Terry in court - are said to be ready to argue that his acquittal in a criminal trial means the FA case cannot proceed. That would involved citing FA rule 6.8, which governs disciplinary hearings and states that the results of relevant civil or criminal proceedings are "presumed to be correct and the facts presumed to be true" by FA commissions.'

That's pretty strong isn't it?! To get the case thrown out?! I mean are you freakin' kidding me or have I totally missed something?! If, by their own frickin' rules, it states that what the court have found out is considered true then why the hell are they starting proceedings?! Because of a public backlash? To be seen as competent (too late)? Or is it just one great big huge witch hunt against him? Someone with legal knowledge please explain how they can start action of a 'crime' he has been found not guilty of!!!!!!!! (multiple exclamations needed)

EDIT: Poxy font screwed up C&P'ing the quote

I bet the FA could charge him for the same event but call it something different. Isn't he charge with unsportsmanlike conduct and maybe something else?

So maybe they can't charge him for rasism, but they can still say he acted in a bad way.

JT admitted saying "I did not call you a black c*nt" and maybe the FA can then punish him just for the words "black c*nt"?

The FA will always find a loophole.

 

[General]

JT is a legend

FA , Old Bill, CPS & Moronic UK Media & Ferdinands can go F themselves

Enough Said

 

[barak81]

Davey, as much as I admire your loyalty, I don't agree entirely with your sentiments. I love JT as much as the next Chelsea nut, however, I don't think he has been victimised as you suggest. Put plainly, and much like many other footballers in his position, he's not very bright is he? If he played for any other club, we'd be calling him a moron. Let's not kid ourselves here. Great, great player and captain that he is and has been, I think it's fair to say he's deserved most of the stick he's had thrown in his direction. A very silly boy if you ask me.

On the subject of England, he's better off without those clowns now. He's given his best years to the team and if a few more had just as much commitment and will to win, they might have actually won something by now.

I don't agree, what is it exactly he has done that the rest of us our so above? he ALLEGEDLY had an affair? shocker, sorry to say it but it happens day in day out and it's not always because some ones a moron, some times, just some times there are reasons for our actions that no one know's has a right to know.

what next... yes the racisem, well guess we stand in a minority that still believe in the absence of damning evidence we are inncocent untill proven guilty. It seems to be different for JT. So what else has he done? yes there where some stupid things as a kid but didnt we all do somthing stupid?

Any way just moving to Davy Baby with regards to the FA decision, just heard a rumor that the FA have f**ked up a bit now, because once a criminal case has been settled in cort it supperceades the FA legislation. They should have showns some balls and dealt with it before the courts got invovled instead of hoping some one would do the dirty work for them.

 

[The Moos]

I should probably post this in the rant thread, but I'll do it here instead.

So the news about JT broke and a swedish paper wrote about it on their homepage. I thought I'd check what kind of comments people left there. There was no doubt in my mind that I would not like what I saw there, so maybe I shouldn't have read any of them, but I did.

First of all, there was actually a few (by "a few" I mean two, maybe three people) who don't support Chelsea but still was supportive of JT. That was nice.

Unfortunately there was also a s*itload of people who had a thing or two to say about JT and they were not nice.

Naturaly there was a few jokes about him and the wifes of other players. I can accept that, since their jokes. But there was more swipes at him for banging wifes than jokes and seeing as that case has been talked about what seems like a million times I really can't understand how anyone have missed out on the facts. People still believe that Terry definitely slept with the wife of his best friend and teammate. Even someone with below average intelligense must by now know that there was no proof, it was denied by Perroncel (doubt anyone know that that is her name) as well as Terry and that she was not the wife of Bridge and, as far as I can tell, Bridge wasn't his teammate at that time.

And didn't Bridge "steal" her from someone else in the first place? Nobody seems to mention that at all.

I've left comments about this most of the times this has been brought up again, but now I hardly care anymore.

Oh, and there was one girl who wrote that Terry can now try to sleep with his teammates wifes and followed it up with saying she hates him. And when one guy told her the facts about the whole Terry/Perroncel-thing she just said "I don't care, he looks like a crackhead, he annoys me, I hate him."

If I wrote back what I feel about that b*tch the police would probably knock on my door in no time. I wish her all the misfortune possible in life.

And of course JT is a convicted racist. I must have missed something because I thought he was cleared of that since there was NO F*CKING PROOF!

But no, some swedish c*nts obviously know more than the court and every legal expert involved in the case. Terry is clearly guilty.

The best comment was someone who complained that Terry was a such a racist and followed it up by saying something like "he shouldn't hate n*ggers". I really wonder how people like that can have enough braincells to be alive.

That comment was removed. No surprise there.

One guy actually wrote that FA always helps Terry. As if the FA has ever been anywhere near supportive of JT (or of Chelsea). But the guy followed it up with stating that Terry is a racist, so he's of course not the brightest of people.

This is but a small portion of what people are writing. Am I remotely surprised at the reaction? Of course not. JT could save 20 children from a burning building and people would still write "bet he slept with someones wife while he was in there" or even say that it's a fact that JT started the fire.

I know some people - even some here - might view JT as someone who might not be the brightest of people, but compared to the people criticising him, I'd say JT is a bloody genious.

Oh and by the way, the people leaving the comments on that site is actually doing so via their facebook, so it's not like they're anonymous. I can't understand why anyone would want to show off their stupidity in public like that. They must be completely....well....stupid.

 

[Davey Baby]

Any way just moving to Davy Baby with regards to the FA decision, just heard a rumor that the FA have f**ked up a bit now, because once a criminal case has been settled in cort it supperceades the FA legislation. They should have showns some balls and dealt with it before the courts got invovled instead of hoping some one would do the dirty work for them.

Incorrect mate. Yes there is a clause in their rulebook that states that but the circumstances regarding this case mean that clause won't come into affect, otherwise the FA wouldn't have brought the charge. He will be found guilty and he knows it IMO. In order to clear his name and possibly save his career he may well have to appeal to the CAS, who should find in his favour. I feel confident that's what he'll do with Chelsea's backing.

Edit: It's not the FA's fault the court case came first.

 

[jc_cfc]

Well, I'm absolutely gutted. Me and the wife were watching the news and she couldn't understand why I was so upset. I love JT. Possibly, I love him more because he's been so victimised, but probably it's because he's the most important player to wear the Chelsea shirt. He's been the best. The best defender, the best captain, the best example. I have never seen him berate a teammate, only support them. I have seen him put his body on the line time and time again. I have seen him take dog's abuse, at Tottenham, Old Trafford, West Ham and QPR. Everywhere he goes basically. I want commitment from my Chelsea players. JT has given total commitment, no matter the circumstances, no mater the turmoil, no matter the manager. He cannot play any other way. He is brave, he is courageous and he is great. New players arrive, on big wages, with big reputations. When they see JT perform they understand what is required at this club. This is the guy that lets them know what they have to do. You have to have pride in the shirt. He will be a big loss to England but I couldn't give a stuff about them. For my money, his boots will be the most difficult to fill at Chelsea, when he calls it a day, because of his character.

I'm sure he knows he's going to lose this hearing and he's jumped before he gets pushed. No doubt there will be intense pressure from the media for Chelsea to sack him when he's found guilty. I do not blame the FA for charging him, they are quite right to do so, and I think Terry's statement is disingenuous. The FA had no choice, they have to apply their laws not the law of the land. As I've said all along, JT is guilty of breaching their laws and they do not have to prove the context in which he said those words, rather he does, and he cannot, therefore a guilty verdict will brook no argument from me. You simply cannot be seen to have said those words and not be punished unless you can prove mitigating factors. The FA do not need to do so and anyone who thinks they do has seriously misjudged this case IMO. I expect a guilty verdict and I wouldn't be surprised to see JT appeal to the CAS, where he will probably have the verdict overturned, because the CAS have different laws. Either way Chelsea must stand firm. Accept the ban but do not kowtow to anybody. He is our captain and that must remain so. There is no burden of proof on the FA therefore a guilty verdict should be irrelevant in terms of JT's position at the club. Had he been found guilty in court, different story. Stay strong Chelsea. The sh*t is flying our way.

Anton baited him. He reacted. I suspect he is guilty yet I feel terribly sorry for him. He didn't direct the words at Anton, he directed them at the night sky, in frustration, out of earshot of everybody. He was silly, he is silly but I like JT. I don't think he's a racist I don't think he's a bad person. I think his character is essentially good. Like a lot of young folk, he has made mistakes, but they have been blown out of all proportion. He does not deserve the stick he gets. It is a witch-hunt of grotesque proportions and it is important the club stands by him. Absolutely. Unequivocally. He has given this club so much. I feel desperately sad for him, this will hurt him. Quitting is not in his nature. This will hurt him.

Chris Foy. Anton, Rio. QPR. The Daily Mail. You've had your pound of flesh. Well done. I hope you feel proud. I'm just so sorry he f**ked it all up at Loftus Road. This will delight them no end.

I suggest we all avoid the papers tomorrow. JT will be accused of jumping before he is pushed, of trying to influence the FA hearing, of trying to garner sympathy, of letting his country down blah blah blah. As far as I'm concerned, JT has never let Chelsea down, not even in the Nou Camp, for he is the player who has sacrificed the most for the cause and contributed the most to it too. He takes a lot of hate, but I'm a Chelsea fan, and though I readily admit he is flawed, I am ever so glad he plays for my club, and I hope next time he plays we show him the love, because if anyone deserves it JT does.

A sad night for me, but there you go. It's never plain sailing supporting Chelsea. That's just the kind of club we support.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Whenever anyone asks me who's my favourite-ever player, I don't have to think twice. What a f**king stupid question ..

"I'm a Chelsea supporter. Do the f**king math."

Fantastic post, absolutely spot on mate.

 

[Scott Harris]

That's football and football fans for you.

If JT had played for United or Liverpool the country would be in mourning and acknowledging they have lost arguably their best defender of the last 8/9 years.

Drogba is the same, one of the best strikers this country has ever seen yet never appreciated.

People laugh but I genuinely believe it is a club thing. Tell me JT would be hated to this extent if he were a West Ham, United or Liverpool player? We'll just have to live with the fact only Chelsea fans will ever appreciate our players, same with Lampard, Drogba, Cole when they all go, no doubt the same with Hazard, Oscar and Moses etc.

It's about who you play for, not how good you are.

It's already started with Oscar, the amount of crap i heard on the T.V and Radio about him "diving" was ridiculous. They were acting like he was the only one who has ever dived. I don't even think it was a dive. Valencia dives for United against Liverpool and piss all was said about it, just a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[SirWadzman]

I genuinely think he wasn't being racist. You can clearly see him saying "I" , and it looks as if he pronounces the 'n' of 'never' jut before Ash gets in the way. Even if thats debatable I don't even know what he could have said after he said the "I". "I think your a f**king so and so" just doesn't sound right to me.

In my eyes... Terry is still the man.

 

[CardiffBlue]

The FA and some of the media have persecuted JT relentlessly ever since that alleged affair with Bridge's ex (which was probably lies from the scummy Sun). They've been a disgrace. They've got all they have deserved from the World Cup and Euros - sweet FA.

Although I'm Welsh I genuinely want England to do well at the major tournaments, it's becoming hard for me to do that when you see how they treat not just JT but Lamps and Cole as well (probably Cahill soon as well).

Absolute disgrace, feel for JT though as others have said there are few players as committed to the cause as him. He was one of the best players in SA 2010 and last summer.

 

[jc_cfc]

Agreed, it HAS to be a Chelsea thing - Rio doesn't get booed, Evra doesn't (only by Liverpool), Suarez doesn't (anymore).

These are all things that have happened in the last YEAR & what makes it worse is when JT played for England after the incident especially at the Euro's he was treated normally and I dare say if England made the final and JT had come up trumps for HIS COUNTRY it would still be the same, no difference. Disgraceful.

 

[TheWestwayWonder]

Thank god he did. I've been looking forward to this day for a long long time.

Blues excepted, England's fans never deserved a leader like that. Now im looking forward to longer, healthier seasons from him in blue.

Looking forward to second choice Rio slinking back to the national team setup. JT merked you twice, you cock

 

[BumsteadCFC]

Well done JT, f**k the England national team

+ 1.

 

[bluedrake55]

i can remember JT headbutting eboue's boot and i can remember JT trying it on in south africa! the bloke loves pain for the cause like no other! the whiter than white FA who have been milking the football fan since 1966 know sod all!

 

[mad_mac]

Any chance we can snag him for Scotland??

Nah, just kidding. But I think it is the right move, but it will be tearing him up inside because he loves it. But there is only so long you can keep going back to someone that doesn't love you until you just pack it in and get on with your life. That life for JT is at CFC

 

[Arq]

I know this has to be tearing JT apart, but good. He's gotten a lot of gruff lately and as Mac has so rightfully put it, you cannot keep going back to someone that doesn't love you. As much as I'm sure he wants to keep playing for England, I think he realises it isn't worth it anymore. This FA witch hunt, and in reality that's all it is, was probably the last straw for him.

He's well loved with Chelsea, he's our Captain, and a Chelsea legend. Retiring from the England squad will probably prolong his career here. And I for one am certainly not sad about that.

 

[Scott Harris]

What he said was, and i have said this since the day this all started "yeah, i never called you a f**king black c**t........f**king nobhead"

 

[BumsteadCFC]

But there is only so long you can keep going back to someone that doesn't love you until you just pack it in and get on with your life.

Spot on.

If I'm honest I don't really know what Ash, JT and Lamps get out of playing for England. Its not as if the national team is any good whereas at Chelsea they have a decent chance of winning trophies every year in front of supporters who appreciate and respect them. England have not made a semi final in a major tourament since 1996. Since then Chelsea have played in 19 semis.

They get booed by the morons who profess to support England with no realistic chance of winning silverware - I wish Ash and Lamps would follow JT's lead and call it a day.

 

[Tim W]

Probably the best decision he has ever made.

 

[nonotnowjim]

From a purely selfish perspective, I see this as a positive move for Chelsea FC.

1) If nothing else, it will allow JT extra time between Chelsea matches for his battle scarred body to recover, and may help prolong his career.

2) It will remove him and subsequently chelsea FC from the vile comments and vitriol aimed at him by non chelsea footy fans

3) It removes him from the internal FA politics and the circus which accompanies them.

4) It will not allow the FA and subsequently the country (non chelsea) the satisfaction of banning him for England.

The only loser in this is England, because they have just lost their best CB (sorry Gary Cahill, your good but JT is a legend!)

 

[evissy]

There have been so many scandals around JT over these years he's done something wrong and a load of mistakes. I'll leave it at that.

I'm glad he's put that behind and puts all his effort to Chelsea. His injuries are not going to ease as he is getting older so less games and less scandals and less press is good for Chelsea. That is all that matters in this case.