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To all our fellow Shed Enders........

Who do we realistically think has had their time at the club, who should we be saying thaks and goodbye to in the summer.

I'll put my head over the parapet and start.

Malouda

Bosingwa

Drogba (unless he agrees to a 1 year contract)

Kalou (unless he agrees a wage cut)

Paulo

Essien (unfortunately)

In wages alone that should make us a large saving, which we should then be able to use to bring in some younger players who are semi-established but won't command the super high wages.

 
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More importantly who should we replace out of those that we let go?

I agree with the above, accept that I don't think we should offer Drogs an extension - I think that gives us too easy a route back to the old style of Chelsea football (or what should be the old style!). Kalou, I don't know what he earns so could we get as able a replacement for the same money - or do we not need to replace him!

What's the focus, do we need to trim the wage bill - promote from the youth team, or do we want to rejuvinate the squad whilst still challenging on all fronts - we'd arguably have to pay lots and lots in wages to get the right players for that?

 
Rumour has it that Kalou is on £90k a week, again rumour has it that he had us over a barrel with regards to the Kakuta situation!

 
Havent sensibly thaught about it but i want to say : for the wages we pay these players listed we can get FAR BETTER quality from the new players we bring.So iam pretty confident next season if we not have more or same points, atleast we will play alot better in terms of quality build up play.

 
Summer Clear-Out.

Malouda

Miereles

Kalou

Drogba

Lampard

Bosingwa

Essien

Paulo

Cole

 
shedpensioner said:
Malouda

Bosingwa

Drogba (unless he agrees to a 1 year contract)

Kalou (unless he agrees a wage cut)

Paulo

Essien (unfortunately)
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I'm good with this list.

If he suddenly rediscovered his form, I'd like to keep Ess. And I was hopeful that may happen when he first came back. But the last several games have been an unfortunate look into reality. His knees just aren't there anymore.

I'd also be open to keeping Kalou. I legitimately like him and think he can play a solid role. But I know he's not happy being a sub, and I don't think he's quite good enough to be an every game starter at either wing spot.

For replacements, we need another RB. Brana is fine, but can't play every game. We need a striker. Assuming Drogba goes, and Lukaku likely goes on loan, that leaves just Torres. And again, 1 guy isn't enough for any spot. We need a little depth there. A true wing would be awfully beneficial, as would another creative mid to complement Mata.

Beyond that, I think we're in pretty good shape.

 
Nibs said:
Summer Clear-Out.

Malouda

Miereles

Kalou

Drogba

Lampard

Bosingwa

Essien

Paulo

Cole
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Some high wage earners and underperformers (this season) in that list, good list.

 
From the back to the front (out and in):

- Hilario - Just signed a new contract, so can forget that one.

- Turnbull - Not good enough for the PL really, unless he's on a very low wage and doesn't mind never playing

+ Courtois - Bring him back from loan to challenge Cech

- Cole - Very high wage and is stifling the progress of Bertrand and PVA (Ryan especially though)

- Ferreria - Never use him, so a waste of wages

- Bosingwa - Has a monobrow

+ RB - Coleman from Everton? Richards from City (if available)? etc..?

+ CB - Maybe promote someone from the reserves/youth? Chalobah? Bruma? That Danish guy who's name escapes me?

- Merieles - Unless he's willing to be a squad player who doesn't get many games

- Essien - Unfortunately it seems like he's never going to get back to anywhere near his best level

- Benayoun - What was the point of him exactly?

+ CM - Promote Josh and Piazon to squad players

+ CM - If we can get him, someone like Modric. Or maybe that Italian who again the name has escaped me..plays for Fiorentina I think...?

- Malouda - 1 good season does not an unsellable player make

- Kalou - Has been here for years and hasn't improved at all since he arrived.

+ LW - Call back De Bruyne

+ RW - Hazard if we can get him

+ LW/RW - Robben if we can get him for a reasonable price

- Drogba - Seems uninterested most of the time nowadays and on a very high wage

- Torres - Unless he hits a ridiculous run of form in the coming weeks and scores a sh*t load. We can't have a striker on £150k per week who can't score

+ ST - No idea, but someone who could score would be nice. RVP if Arsenal don't finish in the top 4? Who knows.

+ ST - Promote Feurez as backup striker for the other 2

Giving us:

Cech, Courtois, Walker

Bertrand, PVA

Terry, Cahill

Luiz, [CB]

Ivanovic, [RB]

Romeu, Mikel

Ramires, Josh, Piazon

[CM], Lampard

Mata, De Bruyne

Hazard, Robben

Sturridge, [sT], Feurez

Approximate Financial Income/Outgoings

Hilario - Signed a new contract

Turnbull +£500,000

Cole +£4,000,000

Ferreria +£500,000

Bosingwa +£2,500,000

Merieles +£5,000,000

Essien +£5,000,000

Benayoun +£0

Malouda +£2,000,000

Kalou +£2,500,000

Drogba +£0

Torres +£10,000,000

Income: £32,000,000

Courtois -£0 (Already owned)

RB -£10,000,000 - £15,000,000 (roughly)

CB -£0 (Promote from within)

Josh & Piazon -£0 (Already owned)

CM -£30,000,000 (roughly)

De Bruyne -£0 (Already owned)

Hazard -£30,000,000 (roughly)

Robben -£10,000,000 (roughly)

ST - £25,000,000 - £35,000,000 (roughly)

Feurez -£0 (already owned)

Outgoings: £145,000,000

Total Cost: £113,000,000

So that's only about two Fernando Torres' worth of money. Peanuts to Roman.

 
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linesy91 said:
I really think we need to sell Meireles.. Don't rate him at all.
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Meireles isn't good enough to be a regular starting XI player for us, but like Kalou, I can think he can serve a useful purpose. He could play basically anywhere in the midfield, in a pinch. To fill in when other guys are injured, or give 'better' players a break against lesser teams, etc., I think players like him are good to keep around.

 
I like your list, Sheddie.

I see some people want to ax players for punitive reasons, like Meireles. I don't think that's likely or desirable. Depth is important.

Your list is sound for two reasons. It identifies the contract victims -- Drogba and Kalou. And it identifies the real non-contributors. Essien and Bossy are your only "punitive" selections. Essien's wages might make it desirable to move him on, if a buyer can be found.

Right back has been a chronic position of need. One hopes the club makes a move to address it.

 
Tough to say. It all depends on:

1. Who our new manager will be and what kind of players he wants.

2. What players we bring to the club - depends on who wants to come here and if we can afford them (not sure how much the FFP rules will affect us).

3. Who wants to stay or go.

 
I know where people are getting the hope and quoted figure from, but remain very skeptical about the links to Robben.

 
Love to see robben back, but he's very injury prone. Oh to see a return to something like the Robben/Duff partnership.

The players to be released I really have no idea, as someone else said, it really depends on who the new manager will be.

Not sure that we will spend big in the summer, but need to ensure enough quality is brought in to replace those that will leave,

Revolution or evolution ?, we will have to wait and see.

Revolution might be the best way forward, but is so risky.

 
Zeta Orionis said:
From the back to the front (out and in):

- Hilario - Just signed a new contract, so can forget that one.

- Turnbull - Not good enough for the PL really, unless he's on a very low wage and doesn't mind never playing

+ Courtois - Bring him back from loan to challenge Cech

- Cole - Very high wage and is stifling the progress of Bertrand and PVA (Ryan especially though)

- Ferreria - Never use him, so a waste of wages

- Bosingwa - Has a monobrow

+ RB - Coleman from Everton? Richards from City (if available)? etc..?

+ CB - Maybe promote someone from the reserves/youth? Chalobah? Bruma? That Danish guy who's name escapes me?

- Merieles - Unless he's willing to be a squad player who doesn't get many games

- Essien - Unfortunately it seems like he's never going to get back to anywhere near his best level

- Benayoun - What was the point of him exactly?

+ CM - Promote Josh and Piazon to squad players

+ CM - If we can get him, someone like Modric. Or maybe that Italian who again the name has escaped me..plays for Fiorentina I think...?

- Malouda - 1 good season does not an unsellable player make

- Kalou - Has been here for years and hasn't improved at all since he arrived.

+ LW - Call back De Bruyne

+ RW - Hazard if we can get him

+ LW/RW - Robben if we can get him for a reasonable price

- Drogba - Seems uninterested most of the time nowadays and on a very high wage

- Torres - Unless he hits a ridiculous run of form in the coming weeks and scores a sh*t load. We can't have a striker on £150k per week who can't score

+ ST - No idea, but someone who could score would be nice. RVP if Arsenal don't finish in the top 4? Who knows.

+ ST - Promote Feurez as backup striker for the other 2

Giving us:

Cech, Courtois, Walker

Bertrand, PVA

Terry, Cahill

Luiz, [CB]

Ivanovic, [RB]

Romeu, Mikel

Ramires, Josh, Piazon

[CM], Lampard

Mata, De Bruyne

Hazard, Robben

Sturridge, [sT], Feurez

Approximate Financial Income/Outgoings

Hilario - Signed a new contract

Turnbull +£500,000

Cole +£4,000,000

Ferreria +£500,000

Bosingwa +£2,500,000

Merieles +£5,000,000

Essien +£5,000,000

Benayoun +£0

Malouda +£2,000,000

Kalou +£2,500,000

Drogba +£0

Torres +£10,000,000

Income: £32,000,000

Courtois -£0 (Already owned)

RB -£10,000,000 - £15,000,000 (roughly)

CB -£0 (Promote from within)

Josh & Piazon -£0 (Already owned)

CM -£30,000,000 (roughly)

De Bruyne -£0 (Already owned)

Hazard -£30,000,000 (roughly)

Robben -£10,000,000 (roughly)

ST - £25,000,000 - £35,000,000 (roughly)

Feurez -£0 (already owned)

Outgoings: £145,000,000

Total Cost: £113,000,000

So that's only about two Fernando Torres' worth of money. Peanuts to Roman.
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Overall i agree with what u said but i think u underrate the money we can get from some of the players :

Bosingwa - more likely to be 5mil. +

Malouda - ~5 Mil.

Kalou - atleast 8 mil.

Torres - ~20 mil. (atleast 15)

 
It all depends on one thing. CL football. If we don't make it, a couple of high earners will leave but the positive changes will be limited.

If we do a more radical approach could happen.

 
Rami said:
Overall i agree with what u said but i think u underrate the money we can get from some of the players :

Bosingwa - more likely to be 5mil. +

Malouda - ~5 Mil.

Kalou - atleast 8 mil.

Torres - ~20 mil. (atleast 15)
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I agree, we will have to give someone at least 8 million to take Kalou

 
Zeta Orionis said:
From the back to the front (out and in):

- Hilario - Just signed a new contract, so can forget that one.

- Turnbull - Not good enough for the PL really, unless he's on a very low wage and doesn't mind never playing

+ Courtois - Bring him back from loan to challenge Cech

- Cole - Very high wage and is stifling the progress of Bertrand and PVA (Ryan especially though)

- Ferreria - Never use him, so a waste of wages

- Bosingwa - Has a monobrow

+ RB - Coleman from Everton? Richards from City (if available)? etc..?

+ CB - Maybe promote someone from the reserves/youth? Chalobah? Bruma? That Danish guy who's name escapes me?

- Merieles - Unless he's willing to be a squad player who doesn't get many games

- Essien - Unfortunately it seems like he's never going to get back to anywhere near his best level

- Benayoun - What was the point of him exactly?

+ CM - Promote Josh and Piazon to squad players

+ CM - If we can get him, someone like Modric. Or maybe that Italian who again the name has escaped me..plays for Fiorentina I think...?

- Malouda - 1 good season does not an unsellable player make

- Kalou - Has been here for years and hasn't improved at all since he arrived.

+ LW - Call back De Bruyne

+ RW - Hazard if we can get him

+ LW/RW - Robben if we can get him for a reasonable price

- Drogba - Seems uninterested most of the time nowadays and on a very high wage

- Torres - Unless he hits a ridiculous run of form in the coming weeks and scores a sh*t load. We can't have a striker on £150k per week who can't score

+ ST - No idea, but someone who could score would be nice. RVP if Arsenal don't finish in the top 4? Who knows.

+ ST - Promote Feurez as backup striker for the other 2

Giving us:

Cech, Courtois, Walker

Bertrand, PVA

Terry, Cahill

Luiz, [CB]

Ivanovic, [RB]

Romeu, Mikel

Ramires, Josh, Piazon

[CM], Lampard

Mata, De Bruyne

Hazard, Robben

Sturridge, [sT], Feurez

Approximate Financial Income/Outgoings

Hilario - Signed a new contract

Turnbull +£500,000

Cole +£4,000,000

Ferreria +£500,000

Bosingwa +£2,500,000

Merieles +£5,000,000

Essien +£5,000,000

Benayoun +£0

Malouda +£2,000,000

Kalou +£2,500,000

Drogba +£0

Torres +£10,000,000

Income: £32,000,000

Courtois -£0 (Already owned)

RB -£10,000,000 - £15,000,000 (roughly)

CB -£0 (Promote from within)

Josh & Piazon -£0 (Already owned)

CM -£30,000,000 (roughly)

De Bruyne -£0 (Already owned)

Hazard -£30,000,000 (roughly)

Robben -£10,000,000 (roughly)

ST - £25,000,000 - £35,000,000 (roughly)

Feurez -£0 (already owned)

Outgoings: £145,000,000

Total Cost: £113,000,000

So that's only about two Fernando Torres' worth of money. Peanuts to Roman.
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Nice blue print but we are Chelsea and Malouda and Kalou will more than likely be on the bench come august. Also Lukaku?

 
Zeta Orionis said:
From the back to the front (out and in):

- Hilario - Just signed a new contract, so can forget that one.

- Turnbull - Not good enough for the PL really, unless he's on a very low wage and doesn't mind never playing

+ Courtois - Bring him back from loan to challenge Cech

- Cole - Very high wage and is stifling the progress of Bertrand and PVA (Ryan especially though)

- Ferreria - Never use him, so a waste of wages

- Bosingwa - Has a monobrow

+ RB - Coleman from Everton? Richards from City (if available)? etc..?

+ CB - Maybe promote someone from the reserves/youth? Chalobah? Bruma? That Danish guy who's name escapes me?

- Merieles - Unless he's willing to be a squad player who doesn't get many games

- Essien - Unfortunately it seems like he's never going to get back to anywhere near his best level

- Benayoun - What was the point of him exactly?

+ CM - Promote Josh and Piazon to squad players

+ CM - If we can get him, someone like Modric. Or maybe that Italian who again the name has escaped me..plays for Fiorentina I think...?

- Malouda - 1 good season does not an unsellable player make

- Kalou - Has been here for years and hasn't improved at all since he arrived.

+ LW - Call back De Bruyne

+ RW - Hazard if we can get him

+ LW/RW - Robben if we can get him for a reasonable price

- Drogba - Seems uninterested most of the time nowadays and on a very high wage

- Torres - Unless he hits a ridiculous run of form in the coming weeks and scores a sh*t load. We can't have a striker on £150k per week who can't score

+ ST - No idea, but someone who could score would be nice. RVP if Arsenal don't finish in the top 4? Who knows.

+ ST - Promote Feurez as backup striker for the other 2

Giving us:

Cech, Courtois, Walker

Bertrand, PVA

Terry, Cahill

Luiz, [CB]

Ivanovic, [RB]

Romeu, Mikel

Ramires, Josh, Piazon

[CM], Lampard

Mata, De Bruyne

Hazard, Robben

Sturridge, [sT], Feurez

Approximate Financial Income/Outgoings

Hilario - Signed a new contract

Turnbull +£500,000

Cole +£4,000,000

Ferreria +£500,000

Bosingwa +£2,500,000

Merieles +£5,000,000

Essien +£5,000,000

Benayoun +£0

Malouda +£2,000,000

Kalou +£2,500,000

Drogba +£0

Torres +£10,000,000

Income: £32,000,000

Courtois -£0 (Already owned)

RB -£10,000,000 - £15,000,000 (roughly)

CB -£0 (Promote from within)

Josh & Piazon -£0 (Already owned)

CM -£30,000,000 (roughly)

De Bruyne -£0 (Already owned)

Hazard -£30,000,000 (roughly)

Robben -£10,000,000 (roughly)

ST - £25,000,000 - £35,000,000 (roughly)

Feurez -£0 (already owned)

Outgoings: £145,000,000

Total Cost: £113,000,000

So that's only about two Fernando Torres' worth of money. Peanuts to Roman.
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Wouldn't get rid of Torres, isn't Kalou out of contract at the end of the season? Must admit that's a nice football manager/fifa type transfer window.

 
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