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Wilfried Zaha

Those that want him....give your head a shake.  The team needs world class players (what ever that is these days) Zaha is not one of them or anywhere close to it.  If he was that good other teams would have tried to sign him long ago, plus he hasn't got a defensive brain in his head and TT wants defensive minded players first, goal scorers 2nd.  He's been playing in a mid-table team most of his career, stepping up to a top 4/6 level is too much for him and if Todd wants to keep spending like a drunken sailor then look elsewhere.   A big fat NO from me.

 
WhiteWall said:
Get all of that, but still don't see what Wifired Zaha would do other than just be added to that bunch. If Everton want Gilmour and Barkley in some manner, then why not go for Demarai Gray. Direct wide player with pace but perhaps not quite the same size chip on his shoulder
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Zaha scored 1 fewer premier league goal last season than Demarai Gray has in his entire career.

Demarai Gray has never been the standout player in a comfortably midtable Premier league like Zaha has been.   He just isn't in the same class as Wilf. 

The only player at Everton I'd consider taking is Gordon but he's very much one for the future while Zaha is a big step up right now albeit from a very low bar.

 
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He fell of a cliff and couldn't handle the pressure when he went to Man Utd. It'd be a strong no for me.

 
CFCCAN said:
Those that want him....give your head a shake.  The team needs world class players (what ever that is these days) Zaha is not one of them or anywhere close to it.  If he was that good other teams would have tried to sign him long ago, plus he hasn't got a defensive brain in his head and TT wants defensive minded players first, goal scorers 2nd.  He's been playing in a mid-table team most of his career, stepping up to a top 4/6 level is too much for him and if Todd wants to keep spending like a drunken sailor then look elsewhere.   A big fat NO from me.
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They did but his contract situation allowed Palace to demand unrealistic fees which kept him there. Granted that is partly his fault for signing the extension but still.

 
HazardousChoice said:
Zaha scored 1 fewer premier league goal last season than Demarai Gray has in his entire career.

Demarai Gray has never been the standout player in a comfortably midtable Premier league like Zaha has been.   He just isn't in the same class as Wilf. 

The only player at Everton I'd consider taking is Gordon but he's very much one for the future while Zaha is a big step up right now albeit from a very low bar.
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Okay, point taken, but i wasn't making a pitch for Gray particularly. I was just using him as an example where i feel all of these players are very much of a muchness.  Never been a fan of Zaha, possibly body language and diving about.

 
HazardousChoice said:
He's far better than the dross we currently have

 Having Zaha on the pitch at the same time would make our attacking play much more enjoyable.
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No, he is not. 

He is older.  He is actually slightly worse.  with our young players there is still the potential that they could get better. with Zaha, we know exactly how not good enough he is.

 
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he's always in for a little scrap

i like that, gets the crowd going. we don't have enough of that sort of aggressiveness.

 
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I dunno about this one, I always think of him as a skillful player who doesn't really bring an end product.

Looking at his stats the last 2 seasons he has about a 1 in 3 goal per game ratio which isn't too bad. He's a risky move (for the money they may want), but could be a decent replacement for departing players.

 
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Anyway let's forget Zaha for now. 

We have got Spuds on Sunday. These are the defenders we need to get in before then:

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No main media sources are quoting this. I think is just one place putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

If TT is under pressure to deliver right away it makes sense are we are mostly signing first team players in their prime right now.

Imo even if we spend another 500mill and get TT De Jong, VVD, Messi et al we still won't be able to catch City though. They are a machine.

 
axman2526 said:
No main media sources are quoting this. I think is just one place putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

If TT is under pressure to deliver right away it makes sense are we are mostly signing first team players in their prime right now.

Imo even if we spend another 500mill and get TT De Jong, VVD, Messi et al we still won't be able to catch City though. They are a machine.
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Doesn't his agent get this going every window

 
Could do a lot worse, however not the most inspiring signing and I would feel we would need another elite forward to go along with Sterling. Zaha would cover Ziyech's departure, Sterling for Lukaku and we still need one for Werner. A more out and out striker imo is needed, but someone who can be a complete forward is the priority. 

Sterling and Mount are fine, but they need a world class goalscorer to take the pressure of them, Pulisic and Havertz will pop up with goals but they can't be relied on to be the primary goalscorers imho.

 
Zaha is a more direct attacker, a bit like Sterling, so it doesn't surprise me that we have been linked by the media. Not sure whether there is really anything concrete behind it though. If he is available at a sensible price, he could provide another source of goals. He may not be the fashionable choice but I think he would be an improvement on some of our existing squad options.

 
At a decent price I’d take him.

He can beat a man unlike most of our forward players, and he is capable of chipping in with a few goals as well.

I think having 2 people (Zaha & Sterling for example) that can take on and beat their man could make a big difference to us compared to what we have now, which is players too scared to take on a man and pull defenders out of position.

Pulisic can beat a man but isn’t smart enough to utilise that skill set and is more likely to run in traffic rather space straight afterwards.

 
CFCCAN said:
Those that want him....give your head a shake.  The team needs world class players (what ever that is these days) Zaha is not one of them or anywhere close to it.  If he was that good other teams would have tried to sign him long ago, plus he hasn't got a defensive brain in his head and TT wants defensive minded players first, goal scorers 2nd.  He's been playing in a mid-table team most of his career, stepping up to a top 4/6 level is too much for him and if Todd wants to keep spending like a drunken sailor then look elsewhere.   A big fat NO from me.
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I'd say currently he's closer to world class than any of our attackers bar Sterling simply by virtue of being a better footballer than any of them. You might say it's more to do with our attackers being crap than Zaha being anything special, but that doesn't change the reality. 

Now if we had an array of world class attackers to choose from, I'd be genuinely surprised at us showing any interest in Zaha. But we missed out on Raphinha, Dembele, Lewandowski and Gnabri. Werner is leaving with Ziyech and CHO following him soon after. We need options and if Zaha is available for a decent price, he's worth a shout.

 
Like I said I don't think there is even an ounce of truth in this. However.

If we can get him for a good fee he has the ability and the goals in him to help our from t line become better. The problem with him is he sulks when calls go against him and then goes missing. TT wants workhorses up front, for a short time I could see him working but then I can see him and TT faling out and him dropping to the bench. 

He would have to swallow his pride and completely change his attitude and ethos. If he magically did that, him and Sterling could pair off quite well.

 
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