ArsenalFan88

Cheers to those of you who provided insight. I got what I came here for, no reason to post here again. Just take note: Not once did I insult or attack any one of you. Although none of you will ever admit it on this forum, I know that I've stirred a lot of you, and forced you to confront certain aspects of your club, and fan base, that might be uncomfortable for you to confront / accept. Best of luck lads.

Just noticed your reply smacky The purpose of my leg breaking hypothetical was to make the point that their are instances (albeit rare) where fans should not support their own players actions. I think you missed the point completely. I'm far from a moral authority, but the fact that the "moral authority" tag gets thrown around so often by Chelsea fans to opposition fans/teams is certainly interesting. Giroud is ****. Lol. If that makes me fickle then yes I am. I'm glad you are at least mildly uncomfortable with his antics though. Ironically, I did read some of the thread, and if you on the other hand had done the same, you would see that I said that some of the posts were very sensible. Agree to a certain extent, would kill for a decent striker tbh. Your choice of the word "embarrassing" though is, again, ironic. Whether you agree with it or not, Costa is effectively dragging your clubs name through the dirt in a way that I've literally never seen before. Not trying to have a go, this is just a fact. I've never heard someone attack a club over a player they apparently "tried to buy". Seems like a compliment almost.

Said I wasn't going to post here again but seeing as you took the time with such a long and thorough reply suppose you deserve the response atleast. You hit a player in the face, you get sent off. This isn't MMA. End of. Agreed on the pathetic/childish/annoying. Don't agree that the antics are usually at a minimum, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since, as you stated in a earlier post, I don't watch him week in week out. He is not punished nearly enough imho, not even close. Not been sent off since 2012? Clear dive on saturday, no sniff of a card? In your own words he deserved 4 yellows, only one given? But, the same as before, I can only go on what I see, and you see much more if him than I do. Nothing wrong with a bit of physicality, nothing at all. Swiping someone in the face, spitting, scratching, stomping, etc. are not the type of physicality you are referring to, I would hope, and these things should never be "admired" and absolutely should be frowned upon. This is just competely wrong mate lol. With a kick or even an elbow you can always make the case of how much intention their was (jumping for headers, players catch accidental elbows all the time, accidental kicks happen even more often). An intentional scratch, which leaves nasty gashes is in a different league. Players shouldnt even have to worry about that happening, you get arrested for that IRL. That's why people are calling him disgusting. Your having a laugh now. His stomp on Emre Can? (Which was even worse that the Skrtel one btw). His two footer on T. Silva? (only got a yellow, clear red) These are just off the top of my head, you don't consider these violent offenses? This is discussion about Costa, a Chelsea player, is it not? Arsenal has MANY problems of its own, trust me I have a much better understanding of that than you do. Was I upset at the result? Absolutely. Your right, we were not up for it, Wenger's failed yet again when coming up against Mourinho. I'm not "looking for something to blame". I'm genuinely interested in hearing what the general consensus among Chelsea fans is regarding Diego Costa, a player who is generally accepted as being a dirty cheat. Maybe he is, maybe he's not. I personally think he is. The statement quoted above is completely irrelevant to the discussion though. I think I addressed all of the main points you brought up but I had to rush through a bit, got Spurs just starting.

Can't be bothered to quote myself but I've clearly said Gabriel deserved a red. I'll leave it at that though, won't be posting on here again. Good luck to you lot this season.

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100% correct mate, don't bother trying to get this lot to see it though. All fans are biased but consider the level of mental gymnastics it takes to justify the actions of men like mourinho and costa. I tried yesterday, in a very reasonable manner similar to yours, but quickly learned: its really not worth your time.

I'll reply to this since from what I skimmed, all the other replies weren't worth much. You talk about "the abuse Costa recieves from defenders"? Lol. What do you honestly expect when the player literally goes out week after week with the intention of abusing opposition players. This is a fact, can't dispute it no matter how biased you may or may not be. Just ask your own Kurt Zouma. So you basically expect Costa to be able to abuse everyone else without consequence? Please correct me if I'm wrong. You described attacking fans for supporting their players as "laughable". So you're basically, no, literally, saying no matter what a players antics are like on the field, you as a fan must support him at all times. Look, if an Arsenal player goes and obviously intentionally breaks opposition's legs, I'm not going to support him, Arsenal player or not. Being a football fan doesn't mean you have to completely abandon your morals. Please correct me if I'm wrong. According to the rules of the game, Gabriel deserved his red, no question about it. His ban should have stood. The "niggles" you talk about will always be a part of the game; with what's at stake it's almost human nature to look for any advantage you can possibly get, even unfair ones at times. However, Costa takes to a whole different level. Abusing other players is a huge part of his game. Stomping on Skrytel while he was lying on the ground. Spitting in his hand then throwing it in Sergio Ramos' face, multiple times in one game. Sneakily headbutting players as he walks past them. Clawing Gabriel's neck to the point of leaving very visible marks. Shocking behavior, and it's consistent. You have to draw a line and some point, otherwise the game falls into chaos. He's basically a bully/b**ch on the field. He bullies other players and then b**ches to the ref when they react. No one wants to see that, in real life, or on the pitch. Arsenal have a poor disciplinary record, can't argue with facts. Many Arsenal fans, myself included would make the point that we get more than our fair share of unfair decisions/ sending off's (like this weekend) but I'm not going to bother with that argument because I know no matter how convincingly presented, a Chelsea forum is just not the place for it.

ARSENAL FAN HERE. Some of you lot are really something else. FA bias against Chelsea eh? L.M.A.O. I suppose Mike Dean never got the memo then. Open your eyes ffs, Costa is nothing more than a dirty, cheating, wind up merchant. Literally everyone (including your own player Zouma, bless him) but Chelsea fans sees this clear as day. Fair play to the few of you who admitted that Costa is dirty. The rest of you....lol. I guess his antics towards Koscielny (two handed slap to the face, one handed swipe to the face, chest pump) were somehow completely legal in your world. Those wimps over at Arsenal eh. Oh and all the match goers, please keep chanting Diego Diego Diego everytime Costa stamps on someone shins, spits on them, slaps them in the face, headbutts them, scratches them like a rabid feline etc. etc. like you've been doing. It helps the football world identify what type of people are supporting your club. This isn't directed to all of you, saw some very reasonable posts here.