again from the observer...obviously a part of you knows not to believe everything you read in the papers, but it's hard to make up the kind of detail that's in the second piece, which reads very much as coming from friends in Jose's camp

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/st ... 53,00.html

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/st ... 08,00.html

If only 25% of that 2nd story is true, the future looks very bleak.

If only 5% is true then various people including JT should be be ashamed of themselves.

No wonder Jose looks a relieved man now, he is out this unholy mess.

What a right nest of vipers.

It's fair to say that it was a lot worse than any of us imagined. And I reckon a lot of that must have occurred - it all starts to make sense - especially when you watch that cringeworthy press conference the other day with Grant, Kenyon etc.

Jesus.

Liam you were right when a few months ago you questioned why Jose would have the werewithal and self respect to stay after Ambramovich appointed Grant given all of the previous undermining that had been going on. I guess Jose just wanted to give it one more shot because of his love for the club and the players.

Chels is owned and run by a foolish underhanded russian oligarch and his pimps. I was in shock and denial there for a few days - now I've moved full on into anger.

My God it's all coming out now and it's not pretty at all. Arnesen and De Visser what scumbags.