bogey77

Someone on the forums sat down and did a spreadsheet of all Torres' goals last season, and highlighted the ones which could be said to have come against good opposition, obviously including the ones against Shakhtar and Benfica.
 
There weren't that many of them. In particular, in league play, Torres scored just two goals against the top 7 . . . which matches Mata's tally against each of Man U, Spurs, and Arsenal, and is less than Lukaku managed as a last-day sub against Man U. So people are looking at the level of the opposition because that's been a real issue for Torres.
 
Torres' goal tally for us last season was basically down to him being a genuine threat against Europa League-level opposition. Now, that's legitimately useful; we've got a trophy that says so. However, given that he has shown himself back to scoring against minor teams, sticking four past Tahiti says absolutely nothing new. It's nice that he had a good game, but there's nothing there that would be beyond 2013 Not Good Enough To Be Our Number One Striker But Useful As Cover Torres.
 
The Nigeria goal's more impressive, but really nothing's happened at the Confederations Cup to suggest that Torres is moving off the level he was at last year. Good enough to be second- or third- string striker, but if we can find someone to take his wages off our hands we'd be just as fine going into the season with Mystery Striker X, Lukaku, and Ba.

RFC you have a point there. We know what Torres can do but have no idea if Cavani is any better in the prem and behind our magical trio. Ba completely dried up after he came and he scored for fun a Newcastle. I do 't care who scores the goals as long as they come...

I don’t know why he gets criticized because of the level of teams he scores against because it’s the same for everyone.

Did Silva and Mata get slaughtered for only bagging 1 goal against Tahiti and did Soldado get pelters for not scoring at all against Nigeria?

5 goals in 1 and a bit appearances isn’t that bad regardless, Hell Cavani has been dire compared to Torres so far but a majority would still all cream over a 63 million bid being put in for him.

It’s good for Chelsea that Torres is scoring goals because either we keep him and his form is decent going into next season or we sell him and get the best price we can.

I'm just saying that I expect him to be here next season for one reason or the other (be it wanting to stay or lack of interest from other clubs).
 
I can't hold his wages against him, he was given the biggest contract in our clubs history and that's the fault of the board not Torres. 
 
I'm not looking to get into a debate about Torres' Chelsea career to date, I was just saying that for the new season he looks to be playing ok at the moment and has been chipping in a few goals for club and country. For next season, if he can continue that goal scoring form it would be a positive for us in regards to attacking options. 

It's a Chelsea forum, if I login to read about Torres or Mata, I don't fancy reading the same thing unrelated in every topic. It's called Spam.

Whether these players play for us or not, making money on players is no bad thing.

My favorite part of that article was:    "If you want a more offensively minded holder than John Obi Mikel, Kondogbia is probably one of the few players on the planet that would actually be a step in the opposite direction."