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DWise77

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    DWise77 reacted to opinionsarelike in Ampadu and Hudson-Odoi   
    I have to disagree.
    Hudson-Odoi is the best youth player I've ever seen coming up through our ranks (didn't watch enough of Terry's uprising). Many youngsters are flashy, might have superb technical skills individually and/or be physically very talented (especially compared to other youth players), but they lack both decision making, composure and productiveness in the final third. Hudson-Odoi has that (in abundance - I'd argue he's top of the crop individually as well), but he's also super effective. Every touch he makes has a purpose - and he has end product. He fits the modern attacker to a T, having both the individual abilites and also the decision making in the final third.
    Mason Mount is another player I've been extremely impressed with. He has produced at every level (U17, U19, U23 and now he's the best player for Vitesse). His biggest problem is probably that he's not quite fast enough to be a speedy winger, and that most teams doesn't play with an outright number 10 anymore, so he will need to adapt (maybe to a box-to-box role). But in my mind he's by far a more talented and productive player than Musonda, Brown and Boga (the players you mentioned in his 'position').
    Ampadu is another Christensen for me. By far the most talented defensive player we've seen since him, at least. He's so good that he's basically a plug-and-play player in Conte's system at 17, performing both as a midfield player and a defender. His most stand out feature is probably that he doesn't make mistakes, and that's rare for young defenders. His floor is in my opinion a lot higher than every player you mentioned bar Christensen. He will almost certainly at least become a servicable player for a Premiership club. His ceiling, based on his technical ability and composure, is a top quality player for a top club, hopefully for us. Christensen was almost certainly going to be a top player barring any injuries, and Ampadu gives out the same vibe for me.
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    DWise77 reacted to Davey Baby in *Official* Pedro to Chelsea   
    At the risk of upsetting yorkley and having my entire post dismissed as just "stuff" and having him bare his arse* at me, I'll wage into the debate about KDB.
     
    When a young player breaks into the first team, if they're to have any chance at all, you have to be a bit patient. I remember Lampard at the age of 23 coming to Chelsea. He wasn't that good. I remember people saying he was sh*t. I also remember people calling for patience. You can't rush to a judgement with new players, particularly young ones, and Lampard wasn't even that young.
     
    What Lampard did have was a nurturing manager, and that's where he got lucky. By the time Jose came along he was already a fabulous player, as was JT. Jose may have taken their game up a notch but had he arrived at Chelsea three or four years earlier there's no way JT or Lampard would have even been at the club, and if they were, their development would have been stifled, and they'd never have become the same players.
     
    KDB was bought by Chelsea with an immense reputation. He was already a Belgian international. He had inspired Genk to the title, as well as other domestic cups. He was getting goals and assists galore, and he was a teenager. This was a prodigious talent, and in those days, we had enough clout to get him.
     
    He spent the next year and a half on loan, with a year in Germany, where he scored 10 goals in 30 games. Not bad for a 21 year old kid, playing his first season in a major league. Not a bad goal tally, considering he wasn't a striker, he either played central midfield or on the flank. I remember saying at the time, on this forum, that he reminded me of David Beckham, and I predicted he would be even better. I'm not blowing my own trumpet. It was obvious he had quality. We knew he had quality. That's why we went out and spent good money on a teenager.
     
    So, a year and a half after signing, he finally gets his chance, and what a debut, man of the match in a resounding win, Sky giving him the award. I remember that game vividly. I had waited a long time to see him in a blue shirt and I was very excited to see him develop. It was clear he had massive potential. I also remember that game for another reason. We were 2-0 up at HT, playing some lovely free-flowing stuff and the second half promised to be fun, except, sadly, Jose had different ideas. "Fun" wasn't what Jose did. The football was clearly too free-flowing. The players were playing with a carefree abandon. At half-time he rectified it, and the second half turned into a non-event, but I'm sure Jose was happy with it, because the players were no longer ignoring his instructions.
     
    There was the warning sign right there. Jose put the handbrake on at half-time and ordered the players to conform to his structure, and, having played Hull off the park in the first half, he succeeded in sucking all the life out of the game. I remember being very disappointed.
     
    Tellingly, KDB didn't feature in the next match. He had impressed everybody watching but not the manager, and therein lies the story.
     
    KDB got a few games after that, I'm not sure how many but not many, and then he was out, because he wasn't doing what Jose wanted him to do tactically, or maybe because he simply wasn't interested. I have a hunch (which is backed up by a reliable source) that KDB felt that Jose was too intent on making him a better defensive player, rather than a better offensive one. KDB wanted a little creative licence, a little freedom on the park, and in that sense it soon became apparent he had the wrong manager. KDB wasn't obeying his instructions to the letter and Jose lost patience, rather quickly, and took him out the side. KDB was given scant opportunities after that, the odd game here or there, but Jose felt this wasn't a player who hung on his every word and worshipped the ground he walked on, so he was sold. It was a pitiful lack of judgement, but KDB had got his judgement bang on.
     
    Jose was happy. He could turn Oscar into Lee Cattermole instead.
     
    There are those that say he deserved to be sold, because he did nothing in a blue shirt. Laughable. He. Wasn't. Given. A. Chance. Same with Salah under Mourinho. Not. Given. A. Chance. A handful of games does not constitute a chance, especially when you're young and foreign, and especially when you're new to a big league and a big club, with all the pressure that brings. Some managers want to build, some want to nurture, some are only thinking of the short-term and go into a sulk when they can't have ready-made stars to fill every position. Jose was one of the latter. He wasn't interested if a player was going to be good tomorrow, and KDB had shown enough promise hitherto in his career to suggest he was going to be very good tomorrow, otherwise I don't think Wolfsburg were going to smash their transfer record for him. They knew something we didn't. They knew he was f**king good.
     
    KDB and Salah played a handful of times for Chelsea, and yet we have fans saying they deserved to be sold. How could they possibly know? They hadn't seen them for any meaningful period. They'd watched them for about ten minutes. The problem wasn't the players. It transpires it was the manager, giving them too many messages, messing with their heads, telling them to track back instead of forward. Either way, people shouldn't be too quick to judge. Give a player a little time, before you make your assessment. You never know they just might surprise you. Look at Lampard.
     
    So KDB went to Germany, and immediately won POTY in the Bundesliga, just like he'd won the award for best young player when we'd loaned him to Germany previously. Fancy that. He was good before he joined us, and good immediately after. Maybe he was good when he was with us. He just wasn't given a chance.
     
    He could have stayed at Chelsea of course and picked up his wages but he took a step down because he wanted to play and he knew he was good enough. Sadly his manager at Chelsea wasn't so astute. It was the best career move the player ever made.
     
    Of course many Chelsea fans felt we got good money when we sold him, and they were happy to see him go. I wasn't one of them, but there you go, we all get some things right and some things wrong. Since he's left however, it's been amusing watching people trying to convince themselves he isn't that good. He was great in Germany but it was only Germany. He looked good for City but what had he won for them? He never turned up in big games apparently. Strange, because all I ever saw was a great player, a top player, who was only ever getting better. 
     
    * It's a great arse. Let's make no bones about it.
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    DWise77 reacted to Argo in Charly Musonda jr.   
    Actually Celtic have 1 thing most of the clubs we could loan players too don't have, the relentless demand to win, this post sums it up.
     
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    DWise77 reacted to enigma in Charly Musonda jr.   
    Celtic seems like a good move tbh. he will get consistent game time and european football. if he stayed in the premier league or went to spain, there's more chance he may not get consistent game time due to clubs relegation battles, change of managers and trying not to lose so more defensive football. at least at celtic there will be less competition and more chance to show off his ability and express himself.
    we've seen this with abraham at swansea for e.g. as soon as a player dips in form in the prem, they are pulled out and replaced because the club is desperate for points and can't risk it. it's why i didn't think bournemouth would be a good choice. i am hoping kenedy gets plenty games, in the premier league it can be tough. musonda had the same problem at real betis, change of manager and they put him on the bench in exchange for some other player. 
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    DWise77 reacted to zolawannabe25 in Charly Musonda jr.   
    I think the reasoning behind this is to build up his physical and mental assets. Scotland is a fairly physical league and he'll probably be guaranteed game time to build what's lacking in his game, abit of grit. 
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    DWise77 reacted to Cyborg7 in Charly Musonda jr.   
    Musonda already has the talent, it lack just the experience on the pitch. It's a perfect move for him, I don't think that he has the physical condition for earn his place in a PL team's. 
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