Lofty.

What malkes me laugh is that they gave the speccy c**t a job... as a presenter and an interviewer no less, on "Redman TV". "Dis is eggzahhhly da kind of person we want speahhing for and representing Liverpool Football Club." c**ts the lot of 'em.

Another 1972 squad photo:

Peter Houseman, God rest his soul, Ossie had nothing but good things to say about him. A proper gentleman on and off the pitch, often under-appreciated by the fans, and was just as often the scapegoat among certain sections of the fans. When things were going well it was: "Peter, Peter Houseman Peter Houseman on the wing." But when things started going tits up, it would be: "Mary, Mary Housewife Mary Housewife on the wing"

The working man's ballet? 19th November 1977: John Deeham of Aston Villa (centre) tries to break through the Chelsea defence of Micky Droy (left) and Steve Wicks during a league match at Stamford Bridge.

One more time: The case from 2009 was brought up in order to show how much the situation of racism in Scottish football has improved during the past five years. Scottish football is not inherently racist, but there is still a problem of racism within the game, both on the field and in the stands. The Eastern European is just one example. The other one I mentioned concerned a young black player. I could also have mentioned that Charles Green was in trouble not so long ago for making racist jokes. Charles Green is another kind of c**t, by the way. It's not that you don't follow the same view as everyone or anyone else, so much as that what you write has so little relation to anything that has either been written or been implied during this thread. That's the problem.

Whatever you say sunshine. Lucky you with all those delusions of yours to keep you company. And yes, you've misquoted and twisted and squirmed all the way along. You've been ducking and diving like a good 'un. You reckon you've been "examining facts". Quite simply.. no you have not. . Oh no, you haven't been calling me names have you. Plastic gangster, f**king schemie. I suppose they don't count, do they. And now you're calling me a left wing ponce? The problem with that is, you don't know me at all. And you really do not have a f**king clue. Not a ghost of a clue. All you're doing is showing up your in-built prejudices, your inverse snobbery. You're assuming that because I think there may just be a bit of a problem with racism in Scottish football - with more than a nod to the sectarianism which you accuse me of ignoring, that I must be a left wing ponce. I'm also the last person you should accuse of believing everything I read in the papers. If you want to know about my attitude to the press - not the left wing or right wing press, but the press in general, go and find out. The evidence is all over this site. As are tales of my days following the club all over the country. Throughout this thread, you've also displayed hostility to what you regard as the educated classes. Is that how you've classed me? As a grammar school boy, maybe even the product of a public school, who went on to University having gained a hatful of A Levels? Not me. I was expelled when I was 15, and worked on the buildings most of the time. On the other hand, I went to college as a mature student, following an accident which cut short my working life. So I've also got a bit of an education. A first class combined honours degree in fact. Which doesn't make me super-intelligent, it just means that I was prepared to work hard, and it also proves that I had more original ideas than you would begin to know what to do with. Why am I telling you all this? To give you a better idea of who you're talking to. Your resentment isn't my problem, and neither are your preconceptions. If you're going to carry on acting like an idiot, then don't come crying to me or any other c**t about being treated like an idiot.

As I was saying. It doesn't matter what I write. You misquote me, you take things of context, you twist things round, you make things up as you go along. All designed to promote your pitiful little agenda. It's plain for all to see that you've been intent on dragging things down from the word go. Fine, if that's what you want. you've got it You've won. You've derailed this thread, you've turned it into an utter f**king trainwreck. The thing is, other people will have read this thread. And they won't be thinking to themselves, "isn't that croydonblue person clever for wrecking that thread? I'm sure you think you're being clever here, but the sad news for you is that you're in a minority of one. Everyone can see you for what you are. A nasty minded little idiot. A complete waste of time and space. Having wrecked this thread, there's a better than average chance that you'll go on to wreck other threads. It's plain to see that this is how you get your jollies. It's quite pitiful, really it is. I almost feel sorry for you.

Or this one: Net closing on yobs who forced teenage East Stirling player to leave pitch in tears "yobs" with an "s" on the end, means there were more than one. Just as that incident is just one example. Not that it matters. Whatever I post here, you're going topick holes in it. You're going to continue with your "this thread is a waste of time" agenda. Because that's the kind of f**kwit you are.

No I'm not actually. I've used an incident that occurred in 2009 to make the point that the situation has improved. Got that? I've also been banging on about incidents that happened in March and September of this year. But don't little things like facts and accuracy bother you.

Quick point. There's been a wide variety of opinion in the Roy Keane thread, but unless I've blinked and missed it, not one person has come even close to disagreeing with the title of this thread. Rio Ferdinand: What a c**t. It's as true now as it ever was.

Fine. So go and start a "racism in Europe" thread in the International Football section, or maybe the Football (other teams) section, take your pick. This thread, in the Rangers section, is specifically concerned with racism in Scottish Football. "But racism in Europe is much worse", is not a valid reason for pouring scorn on the existence of this thread, which is what you've been doing since your very first post. I'm choosing to ignore nothing. Earlier I wrote that: "A Celtic player was racially abused in a match against Paisley, so cannot be written off as religious bigotry/sectarianism, which is undeniably a further complication in Scottish football." and that in another post: "This [racism in Scottish football] may or may not be exacerbated by the sectarianism inherent in Scottish society.." How is that "choosing to ignore sectarianism?" Neither, to go back to your previous post, do I contradict myself. I state that the situation (racism in Scottish football) has improved since the incident I referred to from 2009. If you're going to argue with me, at least do yourself the favour of reading and trying to understand what I've actually written. Otherwise you just make yourself look even more stupid.

What.s the point? I could try to explain things all over again, but with you I'd be wasting my time. You've made no attempt to follow any kind of logical argument at any point in this thread. You're proud of your ignorance, and I bet you're well pleased with the train wreck that you've made out of this thread. Plastic gangster? For using the word "f**kwit"? You've got to be winding me up, surely.

Once upon a time this might just have had the potential to be a decent thread. Racism in football is after all, a serious subject, whether we're talking about Scottish football or otherwise. That was before the persistent intervention of an ignorant, thick as two short planks numpty who seems to take an inordinate amount of pride in his own ignorance and in his own stupidity. As it is, it's now a train wreck of a thread, utterly ruined by some f**kwit with a bee in his bonnet, a well balanced chap with a chip on each shoulder about "educated people who think they have the answers to everything" Apart from the obvious, i.e. ignorance and stupidity, I'm struggling a little to see exactly what is the problem with this f**ker. I mean, I've seen inverted snobs before, time was I wasn't exactly immune to a bit of inverted snobbery myself, but this... person well and truly takes the biscuit,

Charged with misconduct: Premier League: QPR's Rio Ferdinand charged with misconduct by FA QPR defender Rio Ferdinand has been charged with misconduct by the Football Association following a comment he posted on Twitter. A statement on the FA website read: "It is alleged the comment posted on his twitter account was abusive and/or indecent and/or insulting and/or improper. It is further alleged that this breach is aggravated pursuant to FA Rule E3(2) as it included a reference to gender." Ferdinand now has until Tuesday 21 October 2014 to respond to the charge. The FA did not specify which message had provoked the charge. Ferdinand, who made 81 appearances for England - the last in June 2011 - is a member of FA chairman Greg Dyke's commission looking at how to improve English football. Personally I hope he gets off with it. He's been so sh*te this season, QPha will be better off without him.

What "manifesto"? "Is Scottish Football Becoming More Racist? It's an article, and if you bother to read it, you'll discover that the conclusion they come to is that it's not. Seriously, what the f**k are you on about?

How do you know that? There is an organisation called Show Racism The Red Card Scotland. You dismiss them as "the educated political class" and go on to accuse them of sitting in their ivory towers. You say you've taken their manifesto to bits but all you're actually doing is showing your own inverse snobbery. It's not me who's got the axe to grind here. I post a report of a Scottish-based anti-racist campaign which you initially dismiss because according to you, the target is "racism in English football". Not content with having examples of racism in Scottish football presented to you, you then go on to dismiss the campaign and those behind the campaign. You know f**kall.

You dismiss what "these people" have to say without knowing who "these people" are, or even what "these people" have to say. The question isn't of Scottish (or English) football being institutionally racist, but of a sizeable racist minority. This may or may not be exacerbated by the sectarianism inherent in Scottish society.. Going from the Rangers incident in 2009, to the present day, it is clear that the situation has improved. Which doesn't mean that there is no longer a problem. Educated racists are not exactly unknown either.

But the Jordan Topping incident wasn't. Racist yob banned from football matches for a year after targeting East Stirling teenager Jordan Tapping Net closing on yobs who forced teenage East Stirling player to leave pitch in tears And so on. Quite simply, all I'm saying is that the situation in Scotland is very different to that in England, so much so that the two can't really be compared. And this thread concerns a campaign concentrating on Scottish Football. Edit: My point being that despite what the sceptics here might think, this campaign is worthwhile, it does have a purpose.

Nothing you have so far written has got anything to do with Scottish football, which is what this particular campaign, this particular thread, is all about. You've even stated that you're sick of "this sh*t" in English football. When you talk about "this country", I take it you mean England. The Jordan Topping incident dates back to March of this year during a match between East Stirling and Peterhead. A Celtic player was racially abused in a match against Paisley, so cannot be written off as religious bigotry/sectarianism, which is undeniably a further complication in Scottish football. It should be apparent that the situation in Scotland is very different from that in England, so to dismiss the problem based on your experiences of English football is less than helfpul.

And then there's this: Is Scottish football becoming more racist? In response to commentators asking this question, SRtRC Scotland explores the issue Last March, a Scottish Football League 2 fixture made headlines for all the wrong reasons. A 17-year old East Stirlingshire player called Jordan Tapping had to be substituted after being subjected to racial taunts from the opposing Peterhead fan base. The club and Police Scotland acted quickly and the fan was prosecuted and banned from attending football matches for the next year. Jordan received hundreds of messages from football fans around the country and Peterhead FC staged a “Show Racism the Red Card†action at their next home game. There was a sense that this, horrible though it had been for Jordan, was an isolated incident. However, five weeks into this new season, two other alleged incidents have emerged; a verbal attack on Aberdeen’s Shay Logan by Celtic winger, Alexsander Tonev during a game at Celtic Park and abusive chanting and gesturing by members of the crowd towards Celtic defender Virgil Van Djik at St Mirren Park. Some commentators have asked us, ‘is Scottish football becoming more racist?’ Show Racism the Red Card established a Scotland office in 2003. Scottish football clubs and authorities have been hugely supportive of our campaigning and educational activities which have reached hundreds of thousands of football fans and young people. Last year alone, our Fortnight of Red Card Action campaign was seen by over 112,000 fans and we educated against racism and sectarianism to over 14,000 young people. What is apparent in our conversations across Scotland is that our young people by the age of 12 years old are susceptible to damaging and divisive reporting in the media. For example discussions about UK immigration often lead to the reply ‘illegal’ when asked about the term “immigrantâ€, or “terrorist†when asked about the term “Muslimâ€. Clearly, external sources of information, myths and stereotypes impact on young people’s world view and make up their minds for them before they have a chance to think critically. Unfortunately, those stereotypes lay the foundations for the kinds of incidents we have seen at various Scottish football stadiums. However, what is happening in football isn’t happening in isolation from the rest of society. There were 5,002 racially or religiously aggravated crimes being dealt with by the Crown Office Procurator Fiscal Service in 2013-14. Meaning last year, every week an average of 96 racist or sectarian behaviours were reported to the Procurator Fiscal. We know that these types of hate crime are also drastically under reported. However, with at least 96 lives every week tainted by the scourge of hate crime based on the ethnicity or religion of the victim, there has never been more need for challenging racism and sectarianism whether it occurs on the pitch, on the terraces, on the street or as is becoming more frequent on-line. We can never become complacent about those incidences of racism in Scotland and we believe a three pronged approach needs to be taken. In the short-term, the perpetrators must be dealt with swiftly and fairly by the relevant authorities. No-one should be allowed to think that behaving in a racist manner will be tolerated and a racist action not acted upon. In the medium-term their needs to be re-education to those committing racist acts or at risk of committing them. At Show Racism the Red Card we firmly believe in the words of Nelson Mandela that "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion.†We are fully behind initiatives that condemn the racist act but do not ‘brand’ the person committing them. Instead, the perpetrator should spend time considering the damage to his or her victim and wider community of their actions. Finally, in the long-term we must seek to prevent racism occurring in the first place and that is why so much of our educational work happens with young people. Last year our school, community workshops and events at football clubs encouraged participants to think critically about the myths and stereotypes they might believe. We asked them to consider the damage that racism does, not just to the victim but to the wider community. We stressed the importance of safely challenging racism where they may encounter it and gave them suggestions about how they might do it. Following our input, over 70% of our participants who admit to using racist language or behaviour in the past, say they would not do it again in the future. Simply, the Show Racism the Red Card approach works.

That's all very well, but we're talking about Scottish football here. This sh*t: March 2014 Football racism storm: Teenage star breaks silence on horrific abuse which saw him leave pitch in tears and shocked fans across Scotland September 2014 Celtic winger Aleksandar Tonev charged with racist abuse To give but two recent examples. The situation has improved since 2009 when this kind of thing was relatively commonplace: Rangers player reveals racial abuse from club's own 'fans' Events such as this, the Fortnight Of Action, are not the be all and end all, they don't even pretend to provide solution. What they do achieve is to raise awareness of a problem that some deny even exists.

I know I shouldn't ask, but here goes anyway. Exactly what sh*t is that?

That depends on whether you believe the preponderance of white faces is down to racism or demographics. If racism is a factor, then the campaign is even more necessary, if it's down to demographics, then it is what it is.

I've already got a 1905 shirt, so if I happen to win the draw, I'd offer the shirt for auction, proceeds to go to the Shed End.

From the official site: Fortnight Of Action 2014 Welcome to Show Racism the Red Card’s annual Fortnight of Action. The 2014 Fortnight of Action will unite Scottish football in making a stand against racism. We believe that it is vital to highlight the anti-racism message at this time, in conjunction with Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE). All professional clubs will make a stand against racism over one weekend whether at home or away. We have coordinated the participation of the clubs’ actions to make it the biggest and most high profile fortnight so far. At every SPFL game on Friday 17th and Saturday 18th October, clubs will be united in calling for an end to racism in football and in society. Players in over 40 European countries are involved in similar events as part of the Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) network against racism and discrimination. Show Racism the Red Card has received excellent support from football clubs, football authorities and football fans over the length and breadth of Scotland - we would like to take this opportunity to thank you all. We have heard of many instances where supporters have been proactive in promoting the anti-racism message, making it clear that racism and discrimination are not welcome at their club. We urge fans to continue to support the anti-racism message; it is the responsibility of us all to ensure that it is carried beyond the Fortnight of Action and beyond the terraces. Neil Doncaster, Chief Executive of the SPFL, said: “Football is a powerful medium to break down barriers and promote tolerance. Our clubs have supported Show Racism the Red Card since season 2003/04 and once again, this united action in support of the campaign sends out the positive message that football is a game to be enjoyed by all." Mark Hateley, Rangers' Fortnight of Action Ambassador, said: "Rangers Football Club strives to promote social inclusion and encourage tolerance and understanding of the interests of all sectors of the community. The Club is delighted to once again show our support for Show Racism the Red Card’s Annual Fortnight of Action.†The campaign will continue to speak to all football clubs, the football authorities and the police to eradicate all forms of racist behaviour. The SPFL and its clubs deplore all forms of racism and any racist behaviour will not be tolerated at SPFL. This year the campaign has continued to develop partnerships with local authorities to deliver educational workshops combined with football coaching sessions in a number of regions. The workshops are delivered by a dedicated team of education workers and ex-professional footballers. They are a very positive method of educating our young people about the negative impact racism has on Scottish society. Here’s a brief outline of what’s taking place during the Fortnight of Action this year: Anti-racism football festivals and projects across Scotland. Show Racism the Red Card actions at SPFL, Scottish Women’s Premier League, Scottish Women’s Football League, Scottish Junior Football matches. ‘Unite Against Racism’ actions at UEFA Champions League fixtures. Educational workshops in schools and community groups across Scotland. Football is a sport that is followed by people across the world, and football matches should be an enjoyable experience for all, whatever their background. We all have a part to play in stamping out racism in football and society. If you see or hear racism or sectarianism at any level of football, please report it to the stewards or police. Our website also includes updates on Fortnight of Action events and more information on the Show Racism the Red Card campaign in Scotland. www.theredcardscotland.org Show your support for tackling racism: Follow us on twitter: @SRtRCScotland Like us on Facebook: facebook.com/theRedCardScotlan