glory55 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Just heard today that Everton's new stadium that was planned to be built soon,has been haulted and put under investigation by the plod! It may well scupper the whole process of moving them out from Goodison Park altogether! And personally im more than happy to hear that! Why the f@ck would you want to move a famous old football club like that out to some modern life-less,blue bowl on some industrial estate miles away? Their supporters dont want the new stadium miles,they want their ground redeveloped (like ours) but do the money men in football want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Full agreement Glory. For me moving to a new stadium is singularly the worst thing a club can ever do. I know we have discussed it on here before so I won't start rehashing old stuff however if we were to leave the Bridge and somehow or other a new Chelsea started playing at the Bridge down in the lower divisions (wouldn't happen I know) then I would support that lower division Chelsea over the moved club in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Completely agreed with both of you. The other day I saw the Emirates on tv, and while it looked shiny and nice, it didnt look like a football ground. Its ok for multiuse stadiums like Wembley to have that kind of arrangement, in my opinion, an English football ground should conform to something recognizable: rectangular shape with four corners. It sounds dogmatic, but look at all the classic venues: Goodison, St. James, Villa Park, Binfield, San Siro, Highbury, etc. I think there is a right and a wrong way to get a new football ground. And I know financial constraints being what they are some clubs just cannot afford to rebuild a ground, but something special is lost when you see a club move out of an original home into something new, especially when its a great distance away. I hope to god Chelsea never chose to leave SW6, Olympic stadium or 90k capacity ground be damned. The Kings Road and the district line are as integral to the club, in my opinion, as Docherty or Osgood. In my opinion the Bridge is the perfect home, maybe sans hotel, but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim W Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Here in Gothenburg we are, in some ways, lucky the old stadium shared by IFK Göteborg, Gais, Örgryte has been knocked down and the new one is being built on the same site, finished in Novemeber. During this period the clubs, with the exception of Örgryte, moved a hundred yards to the larger stadium used for Internationals, rock concerts and athletics, speedway, etc. And at least the new stadium will still have some standing for genuine fans (the old stadium had standing on three sides). Where they're playing at the moment And the new stadium next door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory55 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 They media are talking lots about new stadiums at the moment. I heard Jason Cundy on the radio yesterday saying that moving stadiums is a step forward,and the people who were against Everton moving were "Living in the past". What people like him dont realise is that football grounds are a part of the tradition of our game. I find most grounds around the country as beautiful as the churches that are scattered across England. Following Chelsea around the country now and seeing some of the crap that is being built like the Reebok Stadium,St Mary's,The Mad Stad,Pride Park,The Walkers,The Ricoh etc......its a shame!! And as for the airport,The Emirates........... ...Its a terrible,dour (much like their rugby like support) red,corporate,£60-a-joe-bloggs-ticket,bowl with no character or atmosphere! And their supporters didn't even fight moving from Highbury,but then again they are a South London team!! We should be proud of what we have got and the clubs should fight tooth and nail to stay put! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 They media are talking lots about new stadiums at the moment.I heard Jason Cundy on the radio yesterday saying that moving stadiums is a step forward,and the people who were against Everton moving were "Living in the past". What people like him dont realise is that football grounds are a part of the tradition of our game. I find most grounds around the country as beautiful as the churches that are scattered across England. Following Chelsea around the country now and seeing some of the crap that is being built like the Reebok Stadium,St Mary's,The Mad Stad,Pride Park,The Walkers,The Ricoh etc......its a shame!! And as for the airport,The Emirates........... ...Its a terrible,dour (much like their rugby like support) red,corporate,£60-a-joe-bloggs-ticket,bowl with no character or atmosphere! And their supporters didn't even fight moving from Highbury,but then again they are a South London team!! We should be proud of what we have got and the clubs should fight tooth and nail to stay put! Totally agree about clubs losing their identity, alot lose their place in the top flight, Sunderland, Southampton, Leicester, Bolton came back. Alot of these Stadiums are also modeled on the same design with minor adjustments. Imagine playing in the exact same staduim as your rivals, with different coloured painted breeze blocks as the only difference. Millwall have never been the same club since they changed stadiums, the old den was a real part of their identity. We currently have the longest unbeaten home record, which we took from Liverpool's greatest ever team. Both side have been/were heavily financed, Millwall held the record before Liverpool and alot of that record can be put down to their supporters and the intimidating atmosphere they created. It's sad to here Pompey changing grounds as they seem to have the only traditional 'old type' stadium left in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory55 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Totally agree about clubs losing their identity, alot lose their place in the top flight, Sunderland, Southampton, Leicester, Bolton came back.Alot of these Stadiums are also modeled on the same design with minor adjustments. Imagine playing in the exact same staduim as your rivals, with different coloured painted breeze blocks as the only difference. Millwall have never been the same club since they changed stadiums, the old den was a real part of their identity. We currently have the longest unbeaten home record, which we took from Liverpool's greatest ever team. Both side have been/were heavily financed, Millwall held the record before Liverpool and alot of that record can be put down to their supporters and the intimidating atmosphere they created. It's sad to here Pompey changing grounds as they seem to have the only traditional 'old type' stadium left in the league Its true many of the clubs really struggle when they opt for a stadium change! The biggest example of this I can think of bluenut is Southampton,how many years did they survive in the top flight? The Dell was a really hard place to go and get 3 points,small compact ground,intimidating atmosphere! They move,they go down! Simple! As for the den,I never got chance to go there,but many of my mates have never taken to the new ground,they moan about it all the time! As for Everton its a working class club in a hard and proud working class area! I cant think why they would want to relocate the club out of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory55 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 And by the way,who loved our trips to the midlands at Filbert St? We used to get quite a reception from the local chaps on our journey from the station to the ground! And the team usually struggled there as well! W#nkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 If you can lose your identity by just playing in a newer stadium then you have to wonder how strong that identity is. I fully support a move. SB is a pain to get to, and my wish is a bigger stadium with lower prices so i could afford to see the club I have supported for eons more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Jim how is SB a pain to get to????? It's in the middle of the city and about 5-10 mins from multiple tube stops! I would HATE us to ever move from there. Redevelop the stadium? If we must. But move venues, no thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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