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Champions League Group Stage Draw

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It's tlv val, tlv... Haifa Just has the better stadium.

Also macabi are on a bit of a fairy tale, come back against basel, looked all buy out in the first qualifying round.. I was shocked they where in the draw.. Israeli football is awful

Oops :-)

It's still infuriating though. Do you realise my Chelsea in Holland highlight was a pre-season friendly against Ajax years ago, with practically only youth players in the line-up, except for Ross Turnbull, who did one - ONE! - good thing, starting the chant "Turnbull for England" ? I think we lost 2-1, it was so anaemic I don't even recall. And you get the real deal! Grumble grumble...

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