We always hear it when a manager comes, "they won't last", "Roman sacks managers on a whim" and all that stuff. But actually has that notion been driven so high that it's actually turned the Chelsea manager's job into low risk, if not risk free? It's been a trend since Ancelotti's tenure here really, when managers win at Chelsea it's mainly thanks to their good work and when they lose it's the players, the board, Roman's impatience, the tea lady etc etc basically involved is more at blame than them according to the media, opposition fans and even some of our own fanbase. 

AVB was the biggest example. sacked at Chelsea for doing a (to put it bluntly) crap job, but the media and our own fans (still cringe at the disowning of Lampard) spun it as the players rebelling against him and being c**ts, so AVB walked into another top job and all his flaws still existed and got him sacked just over a year in while we made key progress in a period of transition that got us back to league title challengers then winners, funny that. Jose in 15/16 had us fighting relegation and lost the plot completely, but no that wasn't his fault it was the board for not "backing" him and the players for "downing tool", so he gets one of the biggest jobs in the world despite that and his problems still existed while we romped to the title, imagine had that been the other way round and the repeated sh*t said about our players?

The same excuses were being ready made for Conte just incase, already the narrative was the board are screwing him over and no doubt the players downing tools line would have returned if our slow start escalated but luckily our horror show first half vs Burnley is a thing of a past (touch wood) and since then we have performed well, which is great work by the manager.

But to cut the long story short, managers seemingly can go to Chelsea in a no lose situation without no damage to their reputation no matter what they do, so is the manager's job at The Bridge actually one of the most risk averse around?

Edited September 6, 20178 yr by Argo

22 minutes ago, Argo said:

is the manager's job at The Bridge actually one of the most risk averse around?

In modern day football i think a manager can lose his reputation in one season, but gain it back in another season at anytime, or even vice versa.

Claudio was cast off as a clown and 'tinkerman' in 2003, only to come back years later and redeem himself in glory and adulation.

Then you have Wenger, once an immortal Arse legend, but now they hold up cards saying 'Wenger out'.

 

9 minutes ago, coco said:

In modern day football i think a manager can lose his reputation in one season, but gain it back in another season at anytime, or even vice versa.

Claudio was cast off as a clown and 'tinkerman' in 2003, only to come back years later and redeem himself in glory and adulation.

Then you have Wenger, once an immortal Arse legend, but now they hold up cards saying 'Wenger out'.

 

When they screw up at other clubs they seem to have to build again and earn their reputation back. Rafa's spell at Inter meant no (big club) touched him with a bargepole for two years, Van Gaal is unlikely to get another top job unless someone gets beyond desperate, Redknapp didn't get another shot at a similar level once he got sacked from Spurs, Del Delneri hasn't sniffed the top level again since he f**ked up Juve.

Where-as when managers screw up with us they seem to get a free pass and a walk into a job on a similar level to the one they had here, as we saw with AVB and Jose. If Jose leaves United in acrimonious circumstances even half as bad as the one's that meant he had to leave Chelsea, his top level club career will be likely be over. 

Edited September 6, 20178 yr by Argo

2 hours ago, coco said:

In modern day football i think a manager can lose his reputation in one season, but gain it back in another season at anytime, or even vice versa.

Claudio was cast off as a clown and 'tinkerman' in 2003, only to come back years later and redeem himself in glory and adulation.

Then you have Wenger, once an immortal Arse legend, but now they hold up cards saying 'Wenger out'.

 

Was very harsh on Claudio that.  Had he not lost his job he would have won the league following year, hands down

I would have liked Claudio to have that extra season as well as seeing if Benitez with a pre-season could have delivered.

At the end of the day  in the first case Roman's impatience delivered the league via JM and in the second the CFC faithful were never going to forgive Raffa for his Liverpool past.

What we have seen with Claudio was a one season wonder and Benitez seems to struggle (surprisingly for me) holding down a top job.