Posted July 12, 200717 yr Does it mean we're getting closer to Alves? [web]http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1072371,00.html[/web]
July 12, 200717 yr Well that one came right out of the blue. But thinking about it, it does make sense. I mean surely he can't be as bad a player as he appeared to be last season ... can he? He's obviously taken a fair few knocks to his confidence, and if we did sell him, it would be at a substantial loss. So loaning him out should give him the opportunity to play regularly and hopefully help him regain some of that lost confidence. And in a years time, he might well come back as a better player or be sold for a higher fee than he'd command right at the moment.
July 12, 200717 yr Feel sorry for boula.He looked a great signing until the barca away game.If this is linked to us getting Alves then great.If not it confirms our place as the most generous club in the world!
July 12, 200717 yr Why do we never SELL? Just SELL the buggers stop doing loan after loan which equate to them getting our players on frees ala Crespo and Veron!
July 12, 200717 yr agreed lofty and roman- exciting as it does suggest the deal is tied in to a possible deal for alves, but also because with regular football his fee could be drummed up.
July 12, 200717 yr Why do we never SELL?Just SELL the buggers stop doing loan after loan which equate to them getting our players on frees ala Crespo and Veron! I agree. If we don't want these players just get rid of them. We're probably paying his wages too.
July 12, 200717 yr What the hell???? Even Star didn;t see this coming. What can the ramifications be? Will it help us secure Alves? Extremely confused.
July 12, 200717 yr Feel sorry for boula.He looked a great signing until the barca away game.If this is linked to us getting Alves then great.If not it confirms our place as the most generous club in the world! Be interesting to see if this has any knock on effect on the possibility of getting Alves. Poor Bhoula...but I'm glad you're gone you made me bite my fingernails down to bloody stumps every time you appeared on the pitch. And we sure do just love these loan deals don't we?
July 12, 200717 yr I agree with this loan deal. He is only 25 years old, and could very well have a great season next year. Why not put him on loan, have them pay for his wages, and see how he does? Crespo however, was a bad deal. He was too old to loan out.
July 12, 200717 yr if Alves isn't part of the equation, i can't imagine this being a loan deal where we retain him with the hopes of him improving and then one day returning to us. he just took too much of a beating at Chelsea to ever be succesful here again, and Jose's words the last few days should be the final nail in the coffin in terms of his career in blue.
July 12, 200717 yr if Alves isn't part of the equation, i can't imagine this being a loan deal where we retain him with the hopes of him improving and then one day returning to us. he just took too much of a beating at Chelsea to ever be succesful here again, and Jose's words the last few days should be the final nail in the coffin in terms of his career in blue. I agree that he will probably never wear blue again (at least not starting), but they would have sold him if that was the "nail in the coffin." What if he has an OUTSTANDING year? It would be nice to be able to bring him back for free at the end of the season. I still have hope for Khalid, I think he has more quality than be brought on the field for us.
July 12, 200717 yr I'm one of the few here who wanted Boula to stay. Yes he had a bad year, but we also groaned at Drogba looking like a donkey in his first year here, (Although admittedly Boula's has been worse) and we've done it with Sheva this year. Hopefully he can come back full of confidence next year, and play the way he did when he first joined Chelsea
July 12, 200717 yr Author I don't see any point to loaning Boula out unless we're giving Sevilla a 'special treatment' in order to get the Alves deal done. There are clubs out there willing to pay a few million to secure his services, he is a Dutch international and has a solid reputation in Holland and Germany. A year on loan isn't going to change much, other clubs know full well he's not going back to Chelsea so there must be some understanding between the two clubs.
July 13, 200717 yr I thought Kenyon insisted that we will NOT loan players after the Veron Crespo deals. Why not just sell Boula .. if we have Alex and Haim and if Jose has said he doesnt want Boula! kenyon .. cant ever get a deal right!
July 13, 200717 yr This is part of the deal. Sweetens the pie because they get cash from us, get their right back position covered and DON'T have to pay cash out (for a year) in return. It's a win-win for us and for them. We get Alves, and they a free right back and can pick up the option to buy him in a year (or else we'll sell him to someone who will). After reading this I am 100% sure that Alves is ours.
July 13, 200717 yr amazed some of you are surprised boulha has gone...it has been on the cards since jose ignored him for the second half of the season and he has been linked with a move all summer...plus we have signed two centre halfs so there is no room for him anyway...but i am stunned and annoyed like some of you that he has gone on loan cos there's no way jose will ever pick him again...we must be the worst transfer dealers in the world...buy high and can't even sell players when they're no longer wanted, just loan them out and even then pay their wages...the only way my mood can improve on this matter is that it has helped secure alves
July 13, 200717 yr Why do we never SELL? The most obvious answer is that we are giving Sevilla a sweet deal as a part of the Alvez negotiations. But, the other reason is financial. When a player is bought for a certain value, that value depreciates with the length of his contract. We bought Boula for 7.75 million less than 12 months ago. Assuming he originally signed a 3-year contract, his value on our books depreciates by 2.6 million per season. So if we sold him for 3 million now (which is the price tag which was being thrown around in the press), the club would have to write off a 2.15 million pound loss in this year's books. If we loan him to Sevilla for a season, then this loss does not have to occur. Don't forget, the club is supposedly working towards profitability within a few seasons.
July 20, 200717 yr Why do we never SELL? The most obvious answer is that we are giving Sevilla a sweet deal as a part of the Alvez negotiations. But, the other reason is financial. When a player is bought for a certain value, that value depreciates with the length of his contract. We bought Boula for 7.75 million less than 12 months ago. Assuming he originally signed a 3-year contract, his value on our books depreciates by 2.6 million per season. So if we sold him for 3 million now (which is the price tag which was being thrown around in the press), the club would have to write off a 2.15 million pound loss in this year's books. If we loan him to Sevilla for a season, then this loss does not have to occur. Don't forget, the club is supposedly working towards profitability within a few seasons. If it involved Alves then i would have expected word by now. Does not look good.