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Who has made the best buys in recent times?

Here are the top 3 as I see them:

1: Messi to Barca FREE (Barca offering to pay for family medical bills if he was willing to move to start a new life in Spain)

2: Kaka to Milan £3.9 million

3: Ronaldo to Manure £12.24 million

Now when was the last time we picked up a world class player on the cheap!?! Didn't we pay an arm and a leg to get that Dutch tw*t from Spurs to help us do just that? And what has he produced so far? Hmmm? How many of his 'finds' have stormed into the first team?

Can the class spell: ZERO? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Now when was the last time we picked up a world class player on the cheap!?! Didn't we pay an arm and a leg to get that Dutch tw*t from Spurs to help us do just that?

In a word 'No'

He was brought in to head up a youth development schement aht has been massively neglected for many many many years. In the time he has been here a lot more kids have been brought in form various countries but we are talking about 15/16 year olds not players who players brought in to go straight into the first team or at least be on the frigne of the first team from day one.

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Who has made the best buys in recent times?

Here are the top 3 as I see them:

1: Messi to Barca FREE (Barca offering to pay for family medical bills if he was willing to move to start a new life in Spain)

2: Kaka to Milan £3.9 million

3: Ronaldo to Manure £12.24 million

Now when was the last time we picked up a world class player on the cheap!?! Didn't we pay an arm and a leg to get that Dutch tw*t from Spurs to help us do just that? And what has he produced so far? Hmmm? How many of his 'finds' have stormed into the first team?

Can the class spell: ZERO? icon_rolleyes.gif

Brian you make some excellent observations.

I think he is waiting for some Tulips to blossom.

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Maybe also worth pointing out that he is strongly rumoured to have been involved in the identification of both Mikel and Kalou although personally I am not convinced by the Mikel rumour as he trained with us about a year before Arnesen was officially brought in by Chelsea. Whereas I can easily imagine he was passing on information to us whilst still working for Spurs (but after our interest in him had been firmed up) I wouldn't imagine that went on far as long as a year.

The Kalou link is far more believable.

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if you are going to describe messi as a "buy", you may as well describe JT as a buy. (although, obviously that was pre: 2000)

I mentioned the stupid (or naive) attitude towards youth development recently:

the thing people consistently fail to appreciate is that if you sign a 14 year old it takes YEARS for that player to develop and the chances of actually making the first team are low- so much can happen in that period... we had a kid who rightly didn't actually make it with us, but his natural talent was extremely impressive. recognise the name mbark boussoufa anyone? the bigger point here is that most of arnesen's buys aren't even old enough to play regularly at reserve level- most play in the youth team.

another thing needing a mention is this: exactly how many messis do people think are out there? a report links a teenage player no one has actually watched, and within days people are discussing his immediate impact on the first team!

there seems to be an unquenchable thirst for "young superstars"- and yet at the same time people demand perfection from the young players we do have- mikel, kalou and before them glen johnson all took a lot of flack for, essentially, their inexperience...

anyone who has watched our reserves over the past few years would have noticed a big improvement.

bringing through young players takes time- not one or two weeks, but many years.

barcelona are so far ahead of us- we've only just started, and we really can't do much more than what we have to catch up.

class dismissed.

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On your 2893rd attempt you have finally talked sense - for your next trick you will mock Henry's computer game obsession!

I do think it is insane that Arnesen is now under attack for not discovering the next Messi or Ronaldo when he has been in the job about 2 or 3 years yet the youth development at the club has been neglected for decades. Basically I think it either boils down to people not actually knowing what Arnesen's role is or not bothering to take the time to actually look into what has happened with our youth set up since he took over.

If we don't have the love child of a sixsome between Ronaldo's wife (the Brazilian wife), Pele, Maradona, Carlton Palmer, Platini, and Zola waiting in the wings then he is deemed as having failed and achieving nothing.

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I agree with sentiments of Loz and G4 but would add that the people who are calling desperately for Scott Sinclair to get a game are probably the same people who will turn around and say "sell him" after he has one or two disappointing matches.

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7 million for Petr Cech wasn't a bad deal.

Agreeing with G4 and Loz, Arnesen's true worth will not be realised for another few seasons yet. I don't really count Kalou or Mikel as Arnesen buys, as they were both being tracked by us for a good few years before he was on the scene.

Sinclair is the first true Arnesen player to make it into the first-team setup.

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Ah, yeah, Cech for seven million! That's exactly the sort of thing we need!

Actually, as much as I love Jose, he wasn't really that good in the transfer market. Not up to Claudio's standard for spotting talent I fear (Lamps, J. Cole etc). But you can't argue with the world's best keeper for a third of what we paid for SWP!

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Jose didn't sign Cech

Ah, another Claudio buy at the 11th hour of his reign. Yeah. I guess you could say Drogs is the best buy made by Jose then (though hardly 'on the cheap').

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Arguably the best buy since Jose took over is Alex although the exact timing of it is unsure and it may have been in Claudio's reign. Either way the credit for it probably goes to neither manager anyway as it was club scout Piet de Visser who spotted him and encouraged the club to sign him. The deal was struck in 2004 and then he went straight to PSV for the 04/05 season.

In terms of assessing how good a buy he was is a bit hard because you need to decide what monetary value to place on the transfer (and that is impossible as the true terms of the deal were never published) The transfer fee that CHelsea paid to finance the deal to PSV is said to have been about £5m and ithas been widely reported that we were picking up at least some, if not all, of his wages during his three years in Holland.

If you count that as part of the transfer fee and assuming a salary of say £20k per week then we are looking at somewhere in the region of £8m for him. If he carries on playing in the manner that he has been then that will turn out to be a snip.

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Ah, yeah, Cech for seven million! That's exactly the sort of thing we need!

Actually, as much as I love Jose, he wasn't really that good in the transfer market. Not up to Claudio's standard for spotting talent I fear (Lamps, J. Cole etc). But you can't argue with the world's best keeper for a third of what we paid for SWP!

Ranieri made some good signings yes, but he also wasted a hell of alot of money during his time at Chelsea (well in the last season anyway). Pound for pound, I think Mourinho's signings were better and he wasted far less money but I guess you could say that neither manager really excelled in the market the way (dare I say it) Wenger would have with Chelsea's budget.

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You have to give credit to manure not just for Ronaldo, but also Vidic and I suspect Anderson. I thought Fergies days were over when Van Nistelroy left but ....

Personally i think Jose was terrible in the transfer market, on the assumption that he was the one making the decisioins. Sheva was the obvious case in point but there were heaps of journey men shuffled in and out, Tiago etc. His best purchases for my money were Carvalho and Essien.

Mikel and Kalou are the only two younger players getting a start. What's needed is a couple of really fast, brilliant youngsters to provide the extra spark to keep the experienced pros as the top.

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The problem is Barcelona are about as eager to sell us the likes of Krkic (sp?) and Dos Santos as we are of selling them Mikel.

The best kids generally have to be poached from smaller clubs or developed from within before other managers catch on that they are actually the best kids.

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