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A bit stupid though to put all your eggs in that one basket

Nonsense thread Charlton have more chance of winning promotion to the Premiership than Chelsea has of being relegated

It won't be Jurgen......but his brother, Klippetty

I think he's dead meat Why else would he give a leaving speech?

"Whom the gods would destroy......they first make mad" Go figure

A lot of good points. Fabregas is painfully slow which really does put more of a burden on Matic, so hardly surprising he's not at his best either. Hazard is operating at 80% (he doesn't seem to have the same va va voom of last year) and it wouldn't surprise me if he goes should a Madrid, Bayern or Barcelona come in for him. Ivanovic is a liability at right back and needs to be dropped. As for up front Costa's indiscipline I'd say is as much frustration at his poor form possibly due to the fact he's been found out in his second season, players get to know how to play against him etc. Willian, Oscar and Ramires are still class acts and Pedro after a bright start has struggled as many players do when first exposed to the Premier League. You need to replace Terry and Ivanovic with top class replacements and maybe convert Fabregas into a squad player rather than a starter. He is not a number 10 and I'd say an Ozil or Iniesta type in the role would create so many more chances than you do now. That's where you are really lacking in my view.

As some one old enough to not only remember the 60s and 70s but also watched lots of football back then. The Chelsea teams back then had some wonderful players. Tambling, Cooke, Osgood, Hutchinson, Bridges, Graham, Hollins, etc I also thought Houseman was very underrated. You might think I don't care for modern day Chelsea and in some ways you are right. I don't care for the fact you have some wonderfully gifted players but they often are used in a cynical style of play. A bit like Leeds under Don Revie. For that reason in 1970 I was very much keen on Chelsea beating what I thought was a horrible dirty cynical Leeds team then and cheered the fact you did. Nowadays, it's different. You can't get away with that stuff. However, I think with the players you now have. Wonderful players like Willian, Oscar, Hazard.......you could play in a way more exciting. It's disappointing the Mourinho pragmatism doesn't allow that.

I support Charlton

I wasn't trying to take the piss just somewhat surprised a thread like this could be countenanced by Chelsea fans after all Mourinho had done for you and forgive me if I didn't read every post. The thread title kind of surprised me and it's that to which I responded. As for Charlton, I'm a realist, necessary if you support them. I don't expect too much and there is a reason why we are 17th in the Championship and Cardiff are 5th. OK, you kill me with your piss taking of Charlton. I don't mind. We have won 2 out of 9 games so far in the league. I'm not a Chelsea fan with the sense of entitlement you have. In fact, I'm a pretty easy target. So have a go. Like I care.

It's still possible for Chelsea to win the league Despite the average start However you still need to perform more consistently You have the players but the concern is that Terry has now gone, Cahill looks less confident without him and Zouma is still learning I'd say it's still very much open after only 7 games but you can't keep dropping points All very obvious to be fair

Are you guys really calling for Mourinho to go? Jesus.............

A considered piece from one of our top journalists. The final word on the matter for me. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11879887/Diego-Costa-betrayed-football-for-Chelsea-against-Arsenal-and-provoked-FA-into-action.html

Are you suggesting the FA have developed some kind of hatred for Chelsea and are using their powers to unjustly punish them? Or are you being a tad paranoid?

Leaving aside the rights and wrongs of this, it's a shame that in a male dominated sport, Chelsea having demonstrated a welcome progressive move to employ a woman as team doctor, has now seen her leave on what are rumoured to be not the best of terms.

Gabriel gets off? Must be on the grounds of the Matic case last season. In which case, Costa will be banned instead. They've still charged Gabriel with improper conduct after being red carded so ill doubt he will get off Scot free.

Such wit........the Oscar Wilde no less of the Shed End.....any other bon MOTD to share with us? If you really are from Peckham, you should be supporting your local team at South Bermondsey not the Sloaneys from Fulham Broadway.

Unsurprisingly, many of you on here fail to accept my disinterested and objective observations on Costa v Arsenal. Looks like those other independently minded chaps over at the FA insofar as he is concerned, agree with me. I'd say he'll get a ban, which is well deserved. It'll be interesting to see if he is capable of moderating his behaviour now to avoid such unpleasantness in the future. The irony of it all is he's now likely to be a marked man. Instead of in future being the agent provocateur par excellence, it's likely the boot will be on the other foot with opponents trying to target his fragile temperament. Hmmmmm.................

Laager as in the Afrikaans sense of a siege mentality. Laager is the Afrikaans word for the compound they used to settle in surrounded by a high wooden fence. Thus, laager mentality means having a siege mentality. Got it? Sheesh........

So much wrong, you can't identify one single point Fans are blind none so more than you

Vicious.......you hit me with a flower......... Yawn............

West of Ireland

I support Charlton Athletic (don't take the piss!). (We can't all support top 4 teams) Anyway, purely a view from a disinterested viewer of the game Saturday. Any idea that Costa wasn't culpable is risible. He deserved to be sent off. As did Gabriel who needs to get to grips with not reacting to sly villainy. I felt a bit sorry for Cazorla though....lovely footballer. Hardly a thug, no? But tell me Chelsea fans, where are you going? Happy to beat yet again an Arsenal team you can out muscle but not out football, what's the big plan? You are I have to tell you this, hardly admired. Mourinho is succesful, undeniably but it's like your whole purpose in life is to f**k people off. What's all that about? You have the money and players to compete with Barcelona, but the world loves them. They don't love you. Champions league you won under Di Matteo. I can't see it happen under Mourinho. I wonder if UEFA officials are not kind to you in a way in which they are, say to Barcelona, Bayern or Madrid. Frankly, no UEFA referees will get censure should they give a dodgy decision against Chelsea in the CL. You reap what you sow. You can't adopt the laager mentality of the average Millwall fan, no one likes us be what don't care. But frankly if you aim for the top, you should care.

It's clear Wenger doesn't care for the rudeness and disrespect directed at him and other managers (eg Benitez) by Mourinho. You Chelsea fans obviously idolise a manager that has brought you great success but his malice and spite is unsavoury meaning he doesn't command the universal respect his managerial talents might otherwise demand. Hardly surprising Wenger doesn't want to shake his hand. Can you blame him?

I'm not being rude Just expressing a view The curtain raiser to the season is soon forgotten The likelihood is that you lot will win again, but I'm going to continuously call it the way I see it. I'd like us (Charlton) to do well this season.....sadly. I think we have no chance of the play offs let alone promotion You Chelsea fans have no idea what it's like to be a real football fan.......

I support Charlton Athletic if you need to know (and don't take the piss) Just calling it the way I see it If Chelsea had beat Arsenal do you honestly think Mourinho would have been waiting to shake their hands? I know football is tribal but does that excuse some of you from suspending all critical faculties? I don't think so Arsenal won deservedly......get over it