Chippy Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Just looking around the net and the media in general I got to wondering what Scolari must be thinking if he were to have a quick shufty through any of it? Forgetting for a minute all our opinions as to his sacking being the right or wrong thing to do or if right then at the right or wrong time and just try to imagine how it would feel if he had read countless articals regarding Hiddink coming in and in near on every one a player coming out and saying something like "We must try to help the Manager" We must all pull together with the Manager" We have all had dips in form and must now concentrate on winning" These are just a few of the quotes but most of the team at some point or another has said something similar..not just that but the actual Journalists are saying "the players will have to help the new man" What reason was there for the same players to be pulling Blue Jerseys over their over inflated heads if they were not trying their best to do these things for the last six months? Player Power...more like Player Ponces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 What reason was there for the same players to be pulling Blue Jerseys over their over inflated heads if they were not trying their best to do these things for the last six months?Player Power...more like Player Ponces. If the players aren't trying their best then surely that has to be down to the manager's failings? If they're not trying then the manager has failed in one of his basic tasks which is to motivate and get the best out of them. If they're not trying but still getting picked then the manager is at fault for picking them. If they're not trying then the manager has to discipline them and, if they don't respond, get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) If the players aren't trying their best then surely that has to be down to the manager's failings?If they're not trying then the manager has failed in one of his basic tasks which is to motivate and get the best out of them. If they're not trying but still getting picked then the manager is at fault for picking them. If they're not trying then the manager has to discipline them and, if they don't respond, get rid of them. But they still pick up the £100k plus at the end of the week. I understand the failings of Fil, like not changing formations subs etc - but the least the players can do is try, just TRY - against Manu, Liverpool and Hull some players didn't show, and didn't look like they were bothered. If you can't be bothered - F*CK OFF!!! They've gotta realise Jose is gone and isn't likely to come back no matter how much the players or me would love him to. Don't complain about training because it's not how Jose did it, just get on with turnig in the best perfromance you can for Chelsea football club because , thats who the fans support and thats who you fu*king play for, or more importantly to the players - thats who pay your f*cking wages Your not Jose's boys anymore, you're no longer his team, and if you don't want to be here play for a move away because people are getting fed up funding your millionaire lifestyles while you can't even be bothered to break sweat or amount any effort for the cause, and the cause is Chelsea Footbal club! Players and fans alike, it's time to pull together, and the next manager musn't put up with any of this sh*te from any of the players, and if they start their whinging, I'd show 'em the bench til the end of the season then the door! Whoever they are. No player is bigger than the club, no ego is bigger than the club (well perhaps Jose's was but he's not here anymore) Edited February 12, 2009 by BLUENUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) If the players aren't trying their best then surely that has to be down to the manager's failings?If they're not trying then the manager has failed in one of his basic tasks which is to motivate and get the best out of them. If they're not trying but still getting picked then the manager is at fault for picking them. If they're not trying then the manager has to discipline them and, if they don't respond, get rid of them. There is obviously an element of truth in what you say (although it totally missed the point of the thread) but as I said most of the players have been quoted as saying something along these lines and that suggests a mood running through the whole squad that would be hard to counter, I'd also say that if I employed a Foreman and the people that he controlled were obviously not trying for him I would not hold him entirely responsible and would likely show the main culprits the door before him. If they are openly coming out and admitting they have not been trying which in a way is what these quotes add up too then they are at fault (in my opinion) even more so than the Manager. Also I would say he did try punishing them (Drogba) and I think he got a bit of Joy through it, it just so happened that Drogs form was not good enough to capitalise on the good it done, Edited February 12, 2009 by Chippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moi Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 You are right Chippy and it really hasnt got much to do with football: it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth to hear them all badmouthing the man once he;s gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) Scolari put his faith in the team, they let him down, simple as that. Edited February 12, 2009 by midlandblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 to many of the players coming out and saying we must try harder, maybe roman should dock there pay packets until they practice what they preach (it will never happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 One thing that's worrying me still is that there are a lot of rumours of splits in the dressing room, then after the England game Terry gave an interview during which he said, obviously I can only speak for me and Lamps. Well previously he's been happy to be the voice of the team so what's changed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Sun Tzu Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'd guess that the players he can't speak for would be... Ballack, Deco, Malouda, and the rest of the players who came in for one last big credit-crunch-beating swansong. Never felt that any of them were true Chelsea; the signing of Ballack in particular was, for me, the beginning of the end of our glory years. Slightly off topic I know but is it possible that Ballack has in his (adidas) contract that he can't be dropped. Can anyone remember any time that he was dropped when fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'd guess that the players he can't speak for would be... Ballack, Deco, Malouda, and the rest of the players who came in for one last big credit-crunch-beating swansong. Never felt that any of them were true Chelsea; the signing of Ballack in particular was, for me, the beginning of the end of our glory years. Slightly off topic I know but is it possible that Ballack has in his (adidas) contract that he can't be dropped. Can anyone remember any time that he was dropped when fit? GOOD POINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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