6 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Us needing a CM isn't dependent on Enzo leaving or not. We need one regardless.

As far as Enzo's replacement, that's Morgan Rogers if we are going to take into consideration Enzo's actual role/contributions for us. I wouldn't play either next to Caicedo.

I think signing a CM is dependent on Enzo leaving as we need the money

We're replacing Enzo with Rodgers (/Palmer) but we need to sell Enzo to sign the player we need next to Caicedo.

I think Zubimendi or Wharton is that player.

Looks like he is off. City selling Reijnders and Rodri to fund it.

Ill be sorry to see him go, been a good player in a real tough period for us, under some of the worse leadership in years at every level, and a club that has had no direction to even develop the plethora of youngsters we have invested in.

Looking at the midfield now, I can only go off what Alonso did at Leverkusen. So for me it would be Wharton and Barco in that Xhaka role, Caicedo and then for me it would be Chema in that Palacios role although no real links to him, but Alonso knows him from Real Madrid Castilla, and I think he adds a different profile and a real aeriel threat too, can imagine him being useful to see games out like Mikel did. Henderson would the 5th option filling out the squad.

Essugo I would sell, decemt player but on the ball i dont think he will ever be at the right level for us. Lavia I would loan in the hope he gets over his injuries and can come back in 12 months when we hopefully have champions league minutes.

Wharton/Barco Caicedo/Chema Henderson

50 minutes ago, acaeus said:

I truly hate this take.

Winning isn't a "single metric" to me — it's the whole point of the exercise. Everything else is basically storytelling around whether what you did helped you win.

Players do different things on the pitch, so I'm not sure why we'd pretend there's one set of metrics that tells us everything about a player's value. Loved Kante and at the same time considered him a lousy passer of the football. I'm happy to discuss how and why a player contributed to winning, but dismissing the actual winning as somehow irrelevant is a fundamental disagreement for me. I'll leave it there.

So by your metric, Wes Brown was one of the greatest defenders in the league?

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