On 15/05/2024 at 18:12, Sconnie Blue said:

Rarely do their signings fail and if they do, they are gone in 2 years max. Pep's coaching has simply created more sustainability on the football pitch. I think they are too far gone for a club to catch them unless they experience a burnout. Even then, as we saw with Liverpool, City can lose out on the title and win the next 3-4. 

 

 

Infact I think to the contrary.. they either buy established stars like Halland KDB toure who have done it already .. this was similar to us signing fabregas when we did. Their other bets fail quite often  actually.

Not bothered, as long as we are competitive in the FA, League and Europa Cup/League. 

On 17/05/2024 at 22:10, KonaKai Blue said:

No chance have Arsenal peaked. They are a couple of signings away from maintaining or going up a level. Similar to Halaand going to City. This is Rice's first season. If they can find a great striker, they are going go be hard to stop.  Newcastle and Villa will yoyo up and down. I wish you were right but you are incredibly wrong.

They spent 200m on Rice and Havertz, which were apparently the missing pieces of the jigsaw. If I'm not mistaken that was worth an extra 2 points compared to their previous campaign. 

2 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

They spent 200m on Rice and Havertz, which were apparently the missing pieces of the jigsaw. If I'm not mistaken that was worth an extra 2 points compared to their previous campaign. 

I know a lot of Gooners are hoping they sign Isak from Newcastle and if they do, that could make the difference TBH.

There again, we'll be up there challenging next season......................!!

 

14 minutes ago, Nibs said:

I know a lot of Gooners are hoping they sign Isak from Newcastle and if they do, that could make the difference TBH.

There again, we'll be up there challenging next season......................!!

 

Arsenal are just becoming everything they hate in an attempt to beat Pep. Isak would cost at least £100M to sign, their net spend is already one of the highest in the league. All this just for a community shield, shameful organisation. The absolute headloss from Arsenal fans when we overtake them will be glorious, they'll never win anything serious with a weak player like Odegaard as their captain. 

9 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Arsenal are just becoming everything they hate in an attempt to beat Pep. Isak would cost at least £100M to sign, their net spend is already one of the highest in the league. All this just for a community shield, shameful organisation. The absolute headloss from Arsenal fans when we overtake them will be glorious, they'll never win anything serious with a weak player like Odegaard as their captain. 

Hope you are right.

I didn't even realise Odegaard is their captain. I do rate Odegaard, he is a fantastic player, but it would make much more sense to have rice or Saliba at captain.

 

All the media talk seems to point to Pep moving on in the next couple of years, which feels natural with Klopp goinng now. Arsenal look well placed to be the team to beat but you could make arguments for any of the top 8 to have reasons to think they are ready to step up. 

 

The Premier League really allowed a state own team to turn the league into a one team league. 115 charges and they won’t get any sanctions that will affect them in any way. 

2 hours ago, El regreso said:

The Premier League really allowed a state own team to turn the league into a one team league. 115 charges and they won’t get any sanctions that will affect them in any way. 

There wasn't much coverage on their trophy lift and I believe the Premier League president wasn't even there to present the trophy to them. 

Wish they would just get it over with. 

22 hours ago, El regreso said:

The Premier League really allowed a state own team to turn the league into a one team league. 115 charges and they won’t get any sanctions that will affect them in any way. 

i think this is a lazy argument used to cover for all other teams simply not recruiting as well as City. 

They've done what we did with Roman 20 years ago, except they've done it and made it sustainable for the future. 

Having the best manager of all time (arguably) is the driving force, lets see how they get on when he leaves. 

32 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

i think this is a lazy argument used to cover for all other teams simply not recruiting as well as City. 

They've done what we did with Roman 20 years ago, except they've done it and made it sustainable for the future. 

Having the best manager of all time (arguably) is the driving force, lets see how they get on when he leaves. 

It’s not lazy when you have unlimited resources to recruit and hide the cost with dodgey offshore accounts that’s just maths and counting. 
Do you remember when they spent £300 million on fullbacks only to bin most of them except walker? 

I don’t rate him as the best manager until he’s managed a team not resource heavy and wins something significant ala Jose/Klopp,Carlo..etc

Hes up there with the best for sure but he always chooses the teams who are pretty much guaranteed to win the league. 
Inherited a Barcelona team with generational talents, went to the team that wins in Germany 9/10 times and now is at the premier team that just so happens to have some serious allegations of financial wrongdoing against them. That’s not a coincidence.

34 minutes ago, El regreso said:

It’s not lazy when you have unlimited resources to recruit and hide the cost with dodgey offshore accounts that’s just maths and counting. 
Do you remember when they spent £300 million on fullbacks only to bin most of them except walker? 

I don’t rate him as the best manager until he’s managed a team not resource heavy and wins something significant ala Jose/Klopp,Carlo..etc

Hes up there with the best for sure but he always chooses the teams who are pretty much guaranteed to win the league. 
Inherited a Barcelona team with generational talents, went to the team that wins in Germany 9/10 times and now is at the premier team that just so happens to have some serious allegations of financial wrongdoing against them. That’s not a coincidence.

Its lazy. 

2 players in the top 17 most expensive premier league signings. Adjust for inflation and our spending under Roman in the early 00's would absolutely dwarf the majority of this list also. 

When did they spend 300M on full backs? They bought Mendy for 57M and Walker for 52M, which other than one being a sex pest would have set them up for a decade. The spent 30m that same summer for Danilo for depth.

How is this different from us spending 55M on Chilwell and 60M on Cucurella for the same position? Christ, how much have WE paid for strikers over the years and completely binned off? Lukaku, Morata, Shevchanko, Torres etc. 

Pep didn't inherit some super team with Barcelona, he ripped it up and started again and made them the most dominant team in football. Managers that show that much greatness won't go and manage Burnley because a couple of fans doubt their ability. Its like asking Messi to go play for Stoke in his prime to prove he can do it. The best managers go the the best teams.

You also mentioned Carlo, what has he won as a manager that wasn't with a super team?