Everything posted by Stretford Ender
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The clothing we wore to the football back then.
A very good class of supporters then. No bucky to be seen.
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Best Premier league defender of all time
He was brilliant. Scored twice for us at Anfield once.
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The clothing we wore to the football back then.
The one on the left looks like David Moyes
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Vintage Blues pictures and film
@The Rising Sun You'll like this. FA Cup semi in 1967 at Villa Park. Toey Hateley's winner and Leeds having two goals disallowed.
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Vintage Blues pictures and film
Here's all the goals. I couldn't find an isolated copy of Charlton's goal but it's right at the end.
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Vintage Blues pictures and film
Some good Chelsea cup action from the 60s.
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Vintage Blues pictures and film
I nearly didn't go. It was a school night and I was getting over a cold. My mates came round for me and after some wheedling with my mum, she agreed. It was a good game .Charlton got our first with a rocket that skipped up on front of Bonetti and went in the corner. John Hollins scored for Chelsea. As I remember, Chelsea took quite a few to the game considering it was a night match and a League Cup tie. The game highlights used to be on YT but I think the club has even monetized our history now and I can't find it.
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Vintage Blues pictures and film
https://www.manutd.com/en/videos/detail/goal-of-the-day-best-v-chelsea-1970 Couldn't resist.
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Tommy Docherty Interview
Bloody hell. 92. I remember the day he walked into Old Trafford in December 1972. We were crap and we had Leeds at home. The Doc lifted the place so much the roof nearly came off. MacDougall opened the scoring for us, a young lad ran on the pitch and tackled Lorimer, and Clarke scored for them with a minute or so to go. He had a great rapport with the fans and no matter what the score was. Doc was always geeing us up. I remember his time at Chelsea somewhat. Chelsea were always a good, attacking side in those days; a bit flash but with a lot of good players. I remember the 1967 semi-final with Leeds when Tony Hateley scored the winner and not long after was transferred to Liverpool. They don't make them like The Doc any more.
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Our road to Wembley (and Old Trafford) Glory in the FA Cup 1970
You were well supported by us that night. Leeds beat us in the semi-final after a second replay at Burnden Park. The story is that Best went on the lash and was in a hotel room with a bird a few hours before the game. He missed a sitter from six yards out and Bremner scored their winner.
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Best Premier league defender of all time
John Terry was a superb central defender all round. Jaap Stam hasn't been mentioned but he was rightly called the one-man defence and I would pick him ahead of Vidic.
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How to end this season ?
Goodwood sounds like something I'd like to do. My dad used to take me to the Isle of Man to watch the TT races. Bikes and football were his favourite things back then and he used to go on about good John Surtees was. He had graduated to F1 by then so I never got to see him ride. As for the comparison game, I subscribe to the Fergie view that great players could play in any era. I don't see why that couldn't be said of F1 drivers too.
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How to end this season ?
The Manchester United Tat Emporium (otherwise known as the megastore) is always full of day trippers and out-of towners. Stadium tours always end up there. I've never been on one and own only a coffee mug with Manchester United Football Club on the crest, so you can tell how old it is (like the one Lovejoy had). All my old stuff like programmes and assorted memorabilia has been given away to young relatives and I don't want to accumulate more of it. I watched F1 in the days of Jim Clark and Graham Hill when I was a kid but I wouldn't be able to tell you who the current champion is if you held a gun to my head. But that aside, the support staff required to get a car into a race, a team onto the pitch, or a fighter into the ring is something most people don't think about. It cannot be done safely no matter how you slice it. Sport will have to take a back seat until such time as it is deemed safe to start up again.
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How to end this season ?
Everyone's favourite shop steward (self-appointed). I usually turn the telly off when he comes on. To be honest, I thought he was a smug prat when he was playing for us with his badge thumping and what-have-you. He wasn't even the best right back at OT during the modern era. Yep, let's find an ice-floe somewhere off the coast of Antarctica and play there.
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How to end this season ?
I haven't spoken to that many people who are 'desperate' for football to return. In a way, its absence has opened some peoples' eyes to what a greedy and grasping industry football has become. Your point about the football authorities sounding out the fans is well made. They don't want fans in the accepted sense of the word but customers who turn up to be entertained, like you would at a play or a film. They want to sell their merchandise, promote their 'brand' and rake it in so consulting fans is the last thing they'll do; they'll go to their PR and marketing people for advice like any big business and they will tell us what it is we want or need. I know that sound a bit David Icke but that what it feels like.
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How to end this season ?
I despise Leeds. Always have. Liverpool are the enemy but you have to admire what they have achieved down the years. Leeds just invoke a visceral hatred. Bunch of cheats, especially when Revie was in charge. When Matt Busby died, clubs held a minute's silence but Leeds fans, at Blackburn I think, cheered, and chanted for Revie. Even the dippers didn't do that.
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Teams with inferiority complexes about Chelsea
They were good lads. One of them pulled me over the wall at West Ham back in 1975 when I was getting crushed in the melee. I went to college in London in 1973 and met a few of them on the way to games home and away (well, they were all away games at that time). I knew a lad called Steve Cronin who was from Wandsworth and he'd come with me to OT and usually stay the night at our house before we went back on Sunday. He went out to Australia in the 80s and we lost touch.
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How to end this season ?
The French solution for the Premiership would cause ructions. Not so much for the title but for the bottom clubs. Bournemouth sit on 27 points, above them sit West Ham and Watford on 27 points. Villa have 25 and Norwich 21. Relegation is far from settled and any decision to end the season here and relegate the bottom three would result in legal action that would drag on for eons. The Dutch solution seems the most equitable for the Premiership but tough on league sides like Leeds, and that thought has me crying in my tea,
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How to end this season ?
Michael Knighton wanted to buy out Martin Edwards for about £20 million. It fell through and he went off and bought another club (Carlisle I think). Then there was Murdoch's attempt to buy us under Sky. That prompted Peter Mandelson himself to step in and put the kibosh on it. Now the talk is about the Saudis coming in. There was rumour years ago, that Roman was eyeing us up before he rocked up at your place.
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How to end this season ?
We brought some of it on ourselves. Rock of Gibraltar, Martin Edwards and his creative accounting team, etc. His old man was a bit dodgy too.
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How to end this season ?
You're welcome. You're welcome to the Glazers too if you want them.
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How to end this season ?
Inaccurate. Matchday revenue amount to £111 per season, not per match. The club breaks it down between sponsorship money, broadcasting money, and matchday revenues over a season. https://ir.manutd.com/company-information/business-model.aspx
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How to end this season ?
Owners that have monetized every aspect of their club (Glazers) will be more inclined to listen to their myriad sponsors than others I suppose. Ours is worth something in the region of £600 million (including broadcast and match day income) but the debt is roughly £500 million. The FT reported that our value dropped by 22% with some reported gains thereafter. Adidas will cut back if we don't get a CL and Chevrolet are gone in 2022. Share prices could plummet leaving the club open to another takeover, or maybe the debt will be significantly increased to keep the club operating at where we are. I don't know and people far cleverer than I about financial matters and sport have floated this as a possibility. I'd like to think we supporters could come out of this with a degree of control, but I have my doubts.
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Teams with inferiority complexes about Chelsea
Right. It was the weekend after St. Etienne away in the CWC. I think you did the double over us that year. Funny old season that was. Docherty sacked after winning the cup, Dave Sexton brought in and an opening match at Birmingham. I hated going to that place. Always numbers waiting at New Street.
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Teams with inferiority complexes about Chelsea
I remember beating them 4-0 at home but was in the Stretford End so didn't see any action. Chelsea always brought a good number to OT, even going back to the 60s when I first started going. My first home game against Chelsea was in March 1965 when we won 4-0. There have been some memorable games. Tommy Baldwin always liked playing against us because he inevitably scored. Best often saved his best for Chelsea. First away at your place was 1971, early season when Bestie got sent off for swearing at the ref. I remember that game in 1977 by the way. Chopper was still playing as I recall but I can't remember who scored. Wasn't Butch was it?