ws6blue Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 actually like to see the u21's play the full team............won't happen but intreging anyway - phil jones off to join smalling at mancs - fergie does it again - both 19 - looks like long-term planning henderson off the scouseland - presumably to replace gerrad - daglish does it again - looks like long-term planning then there's daniel s - has to come back and get a run in the PL and ryan B - has to be cover for ash or he'll go on loan again, he always looks classy and has time on the ball and last of course is jack rodwell - now he is the real mckoy (in my view) and would be great swap for lamps in years to come - toffee fans expect him to go for £20m - at u21 level he looks pure class - now if we got him that would be a sign of a real coherent long-term plan so for me, buy jack r and we can build team round him
54veteran Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Not a lot of takers on this one then! I think JR would be an excellent choice, not least because he has proven himself in the PL. Talented as they are, the likes of Ramires and Luis are essentially a gamble in terms of their physical resilience and temperament. Frank's appearance and goalscoring records make him virtually irreplaceable, so I think we'll just have to count ourselves lucky he was here in his prime and forget about a "swap" as such.
nonotnowjim Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 would agree that getting rodwell would be a good move as he is comfortable in various positions. my only concern is that i am not sure even he knows his best position. Always been billed as a future england CB, but more often than not he plays in the middle or sometimes higher up the pitch. would still like to see him with us
Mike 93 Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I don't think he has ever been thought of as a center back
ChelseaRanger Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I think its definetely worth investing in some quality young players. Althought the current activity in the league has been over-the-top I think it is important to have players like that in your squad. Despite the outlay that is required young players can serve the club for years to come and still have a decent value for resale. As suggested above Rodwell could be an excellent addition to the squad. Need to have an eye on the long term.
deg0ey Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 That Kyle Walker dude looked really good in the England vs Spain U-21 game earlier. Best English right-back I've seen in quite a while. Don't think Spurs would let him go easily though. From watching these U-21 matches, I've noticed that Sturridge looks a lot more threatening when he cuts in from wide-right positions than when he's the main front man. I wonder whether we'd be able to use a 4-3-3 in a similar style to Barca; Sturridge cutting in from the right, Torres cutting in from the left and a false 9 in between (I reckon Neymar could manage that). Just a thought 'cause we've always had a traditional striker in the middle, which makes sense when you've got someone like Drogba but he's probably on his way out in the next year or two, and we seem to have two pacey strikers who are adept at drifting wide and then cutting back inside.
Kalou Time Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 That Kyle Walker dude looked really good in the England vs Spain U-21 game earlier. Best English right-back I've seen in quite a while. Don't think Spurs would let him go easily though. From watching these U-21 matches, I've noticed that Sturridge looks a lot more threatening when he cuts in from wide-right positions than when he's the main front man. I wonder whether we'd be able to use a 4-3-3 in a similar style to Barca; Sturridge cutting in from the right, Torres cutting in from the left and a false 9 in between (I reckon Neymar could manage that). Just a thought 'cause we've always had a traditional striker in the middle, which makes sense when you've got someone like Drogba but he's probably on his way out in the next year or two, and we seem to have two pacey strikers who are adept at drifting wide and then cutting back inside. You want even less width than last season?
deg0ey Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 You want even less width than last season? Umm...what? A 4-3-3 is always going to be a narrow formation. The job of the wider forwards is to cut in and cause problems for the defense (in the way that Kalou and Malouda often do). The width comes from a good pair of attacking full-backs (of which we've only had one this season, hence the lack of width). I was merely suggesting that Sturridge looks at his best when cutting in from the right onto his stronger foot, rather than when played in the centre. Torres has also, in the past, looked quite dangerous when drifting in from the left (see his second goal against us last November for an example). I think that a formation that promotes more width would certainly be a good thing to use, but we need more than one option - many people complained this season about a lack of a plan B and I'm just suggesting one. This wouldn't give us any less width than last season, but it also wouldn't give us any more which could be an issue.
dkw Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Umm...what? A 4-3-3 is always going to be a narrow formation. The job of the wider forwards is to cut in and cause problems for the defense (in the way that Kalou and Malouda often do). The width comes from a good pair of attacking full-backs (of which we've only had one this season, hence the lack of width). I was merely suggesting that Sturridge looks at his best when cutting in from the right onto his stronger foot, rather than when played in the centre. Torres has also, in the past, looked quite dangerous when drifting in from the left (see his second goal against us last November for an example). I think that a formation that promotes more width would certainly be a good thing to use, but we need more than one option - many people complained this season about a lack of a plan B and I'm just suggesting one. This wouldn't give us any less width than last season, but it also wouldn't give us any more which could be an issue. Bang on with that. Though the job of the two wide attackers is also to come in field and engage defenders, leaving space for the full backs to get beyond the defence. This obviously only really works if you have two incredibly fit full backs.
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