What about us pinching a kid from Hamburg !

[Star]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx09C47Oc5I&feature=related

[german-blue]

I like him a lot but unfortunately he hasnt developed as well as everyone expected. Injury- prone too, would still like him at Chelsea but only for the right price.

[Zola]

?

[TheWestwayWonder]

Juventus just failed to get him with a 7m Euro bid. Kind of a joke considering Shane Long cost most.

Anyway, considering he played at Twente, im sure if the club was gonna make a move they would have by now.

[german-blue]

7m really?? Thats a bit of a ridiculous offer by Juve... I would say anything between 11-15m would be realistic.

[Spiller86]

They've pinched enough of ours.

He's another guy a bit like Marin that has been hyped massively but doesn't do it regularly enough. I prefer Reus from Gladbach. He'd be cheaper and has a better final delivery.

[HazardsLeftPeg]

Nice start they have made to the season 6 games in.

1 draw, 5 defeats, dead bottom of the table.

Looks like we got rid of Arnesen just in time.

[german-blue]

Hamburg is a real mess indeed...I always liked them but now I have to say they look bound for 2. Bundesliga. Arnesen´s transfers are not really helping them either

[mad_mac]

But surley Arnesen's transfers were all youth products? You can't blame Hamburg's downfall on Arnesen bringing in talented kids?

I'd like to think their problems are based on their backroom staff or head coach?

[HazardsLeftPeg]

Well Arnesen would appear to be fully in charge of the recruitment there, so you'd have to blame him for effectively replacing experienced defenders like Mathijsen and Demel and with our kids, which meant that the likes of Mancienne and Bruma had to be thrown in at the deep end against Bayern. I would think that if there were better options available, the manager would have used them, so it has to come down to the person in charge of transfers.

[HazardsLeftPeg]

Here's Jens Lehmann having a go at Arnesen.

[Zeta]

Here's Jens Lehmann having a go at Arnesen.

Could just as easily have been talking about Arsene at this stage.

[HazardsLeftPeg]

If they're going to sack the manager, I wonder if Arnesen will go after Dermot Drummy?

[Spiller86]

I watched the replay of their game against 'Gladbach. Have to say the only things keeping them from getting spanked were Rajkovic and their goalkeeper. Both we excellent. My man Marco Reus tore them to bits, some of the through balls he played were brilliant.

Mancienne especially was very ordinary.